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Half true or half lie?
Rapid City Journal ^ | 05/06/2003 | Ron Marr

Posted on 05/06/2003 10:25:00 AM PDT by SoDak

ELK CITY, Idaho - There was a much-repeated phrase floating about during the most heated fighting of the second Gulf War. This slogan, mouthed mostly by celebrities, anti-war activists and the leaders of the Democratic Party, went something like this: "We support our troops," the ultra-partisans would claim, "but we are against the war."

I didn't understand those words then, and I don't understand them now. They seemed nothing more than the utterances of those afraid to take a strong stand for their convictions, a not-so-subtle condemnation of the Bush administration carefully constructed to side-step the labels of "unpatriotic" or "anti-American." They were and are the height of ambiguous double-talk, devoid of logic or rational definition. They were and are a disclaimer emanating from the pie-holes of folks who wish to avoid the ire of a public who by and large support both the war effort and the brave men and women who put their lives on the line. They were and are nothing but a shibboleth for the anti-Bush contingent, meaningless syllables which permit the lemmings of the left to easily identify each other as citizens of fantasyland, advocates of the ennui inherent to the nanny state.

The quotation - "We support our troops but we are against the war" - should receive a perfect 10 in the Olympic fence-straddling competition. It's a little like saying "we support traffic cops, but we are against speeding tickets." It's reminiscent of right-wingers who proclaim, "we don't hate homosexuals, we just hate their behavior." It's the cry of left-wingers who avow, "we support the rights of hunters, but we are against gun ownership."

Such statements are the stock in trade of feckless cretins whose true motives are expressed only from behind pulled curtains. We know what they really mean, just as we know that their token gestures of empathy are hollow and contrived.

Few things are more irritating than people who privately express verbose disdain for any given topic but are frightened to take the public heat which walks hand-in-hand with full disclosure. If one is incapable of speaking his mind without qualifiers or escape hatches, then they shouldn't speak at all. If one is incapable of speaking without seeking to placate those whom they attack, covering all bases and protecting their precious tails from possible fall-out, they should adopt a vow of silence. A half-truth is still 50 percent lie.

"We support ranchers," say the timid, "but we are against eating steak."

Say what you mean. Mean what you say. If your beliefs burn so hot that you are compelled to touch them to tinder, then by all means hold forth. Jump on the soapbox, grab the microphone, sign your name to the letter. Don't hide your light beneath a bushel basket.

However, if your moral fortitude is tempered by how your thoughts might alter the way you are perceived by others, do us all a favor and shut up. Wishy-washy pronouncements don't fool anybody.

"We support loggers," say the forked-tongue tribe, "but we are against cutting down trees."

Though I would strongly disagree with a Bull Pacifist, I could respect such a person's courage in clearly stating their position. If they say they are against the Iraq war ... fine. If they say they care for the welfare of soldiers and non-combatants on both sides and hope none of them suffer harm ... fine. If they say they are against all armed conflict, for any reason ... fine. I think they are misguided and wrong, but at least they're not shoveling a load of bull into my yard. They're not sugar-coating their ideology or presenting the incompatible argument that they hate war but support the troops who wage war.

Some folks, regardless of affiliation, realize that not all aspects of life are shaded by infinite hues and soothing earth-tones. Furthermore, they know that what is strongest in their heart is strictly black and white.

That's one reason I'm fond of the Bush White House. They have focus. They state their goal and pursue it. Again, they say what they mean and mean what they say.

That's a policy long absent from the Executive Branch, hijacked for years by those who say what they don't mean and mean to stab you in the back at the most expedient opportunity, all in the name of votes, poll numbers and fund-raising efforts.

I support free speech - speech which is not spiked with deception. I support the war in Iraq because it is the right thing to do. I support decisive and overwhelming action against any nation that supports terrorism, harbors terrorists or threatens our country.

Mostly, I support the troops who are risking their lives in the name of protecting our security, our beliefs and our very existence. There is no greater sacrifice, and as liberals never seem to learn, sacrifice does not come in shades of gray.

Neither does honesty ... to self or others.

Ron Marr is publisher, editor and janitor of The Troutwrapper magazine. Contact him at www.troutwrapper.com.


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1 posted on 05/06/2003 10:25:00 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak
"we don't hate homosexuals, we just hate their behavior."

You make an interesting point. And carry it a little further: Christians say "love the sinner, hate the sin," or some such wording. Isn't that just what these lefties are saying? They, who are consistently anti-religion.

Fascinating.

2 posted on 05/06/2003 10:30:12 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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To: SoDak
Ron Marr is publisher, editor and **janitor** of The Troutwrapper magazine.

LOL
3 posted on 05/06/2003 10:32:16 AM PDT by ctlpdad ("patco" the teachers unions)
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To: SoDak; Grampa Dave; floriduh voter; PhiKapMom
Wow, what a great find. Spread it around Freepers, this is coming from Daschleland no-less.

If one is incapable of speaking without seeking to placate those whom they attack, covering all bases and protecting their precious tails from possible fall-out, they should adopt a vow of silence. A half-truth is still 50 percent lie.

So I guess that makes little tommy's diatribe about being "saddened, saddened," over the utter failure of Bush's diplomacy, a 100% lie when you compare it to his 'after-poll-result' statement of acknowledging Bush's handling of a great victory?

4 posted on 05/06/2003 10:37:53 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (FReepers discover the TRUTH, and distribute it.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Thanks the janitor and head writer for the Trout Stalker is great.

This mantra by the liberals may have fooled some, but it didn't fool the real conservatives: We support our troops," the ultra-partisans would claim, "but we are against the war."

5 posted on 05/06/2003 10:42:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, where leftist liars are exposed 24/7!)
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To: SoDak
As someone who was very ambivalent about some of Clinton's foreign adventures, I think it's possible to be strongly pro-military and against a particular use of the military. I just think in this particular case, the same people who were anti-American leftists, who hate the use of the military for any purpose except for handing out aid, were the ones proclaiming a support for the troops. Yeah, right. Those radicals hate, the Pelosis and so forth, hate the military and all it stands for, and have no respect for the troops.
6 posted on 05/06/2003 10:44:23 AM PDT by Defiant (Time to get syrias about terror.)
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To: SoDak
Exactly right.

I don't have a problem with pacifists, I have a problem with politically motivated closet pacifists; those that displayed zero conscience or sense of morality when their Democratic President waged war, sold and blemished his office. The fact that they have felt the consequences of their hypocritical stance doesn't bother me one bit.

Then there are the morally misguided, despite any consistancy in their position:

7 posted on 05/06/2003 10:49:36 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: BOBTHENAILER
NA he was just reported a couple days ago TOTALLY reversing his words about being behind the president the whole way stating that his plan was an excellent idea. This clown is a total hypocrit and just showed evidence of testing the wind direction on this matter as well as many others through history.
8 posted on 05/06/2003 10:50:57 AM PDT by AbsoluteJustice (Pounding the world like a battering ram. Forging the furnace for the final grand slam!!)
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To: SoDak
Some pretty famous Americans of the past have supported the troops while opposing a war.

For instance, Abe Lincoln. He was opposed to the Mexican War as a member of the House of Representatives. Had he been a member when war was declared, he would have voted against it. But, since the US was in the war he always voted to provide whatever supplies the troops needed.

However, most proclaiming this view today are indeed hypocrites.
9 posted on 05/06/2003 12:04:40 PM PDT by Restorer (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Restorer
When troops are in the field in combat, supporting the troops and supporting the war are the same thing. You can't seperate the two when there's a firefight happening. Opposing the war at that point is opposing the troops.
10 posted on 05/06/2003 12:24:16 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: EggsAckley
I find a little flaw in the comparison. I think there's a big difference between the idea of hating someone and not supporting someone. While I don't hate homosexuals, I would never say I support them. Support implies that you are backing up their cause. To say "we support our troops" implies that you're on their side, hoping they succeed in their endeavour.

If someone says they support the homosexuals, I don't think anyone would take that to simply mean they acknowledge their right to live and breathe. It would be taken to mean they believe in their right to engage in homosexual activity.

Those who say they support the troops usually follow it up by saying that's why they want them to come home. They don't believe in the military activities they engage in, they simply want them to keep living and breathing. Support means to back up, not to try to bring an end to the person's endeavour. I don't think the majority of antiwar protesters hate our troops, but I certainly wouldn't call them supportive either.
11 posted on 05/06/2003 1:05:38 PM PDT by tiredoflurking
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To: SoDak
Don't argue with me. Argue with Abe Lincoln.

I believe that it is possible to oppose a particular war while still recognizing that once you are in the middle of it, you have no choice but to go ahead and try to win it.

You seem to think that any war the US might conceivably get into would be a good idea. I disagree quite strongly, while recognizing that the Constitution foolishly fails to give me veto power over all US government decisions.

Thus I would support just about any war once we were in it, without giving up my right to disagree about whether getting into it was a good idea.
12 posted on 05/06/2003 1:06:00 PM PDT by Restorer (TANSTAAFL)
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To: SoDak
A half-truth is still 50 percent lie.

A half-truth is a whole lie.

13 posted on 05/06/2003 2:40:47 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: SoDak
"We support our troops but we are against the war"

I have no difficulty in understanding that position. It states a position that supports the well-being of troops sent to war regardless of the reasons. It also states a position that does not support the reasons for waging that war.

It is every American's obligation and duty to question government. Trusting government is a fool's position. The government does not trust government, why should the citizen. The wise framers of the Constitution for this Republic did not trust government. That is why you see three branches of government and the checks and balances required so that the citizen need not trust government.

What does become difficult to understand is the notion that a free people need give up freedoms in order to be preserve their freedom. How can one say they are free when limited to only two points of view and no others.

14 posted on 05/06/2003 3:08:02 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Restorer
I believe that it is possible to oppose a particular war while still recognizing that once you are in the middle of it, you have no choice but to go ahead and try to win it.

Actually, this is what I was trying to say.

15 posted on 05/06/2003 3:27:11 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Defiant
My belief has always stayed the same, including the Clinton years, you support the troops by supporting what they believe in. If they think its wrong, then it probably is, and to the best of my knowledge, an overwhelming number of the men and women serving over there now (Including 12 friends of mine personally) were in support of this war. Its a cute thing, CNN, MSNBC and one other news network (not Fox) did poll people in the armed services and always got back high numbers in support for the war (this was in jaunary before the war actually started) and for Bush personally. I'm sure most of the armed forces did not want to go on Clinton's military social causes, but being fine men and women, did so, without question, or hesitation.
16 posted on 05/06/2003 5:05:23 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant".)
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To: MosesKnows
My momma used to say, if its not the while truth, then its a lie.
17 posted on 05/06/2003 5:07:40 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant".)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Tom Daschle, the Flip Flop King.
18 posted on 05/07/2003 7:07:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Seriesly. This is hugh.)
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To: SoDak
You are reading stuff from Idaho? Guess they can't stand Daschle either. I'm waiting for Thune to announce so I can help him (whether he wants it or not). The more interested parties that Thune can put his trust in, the bigger his circle of influence will be. He can concentrate on fundraising while we promote him in a responsible, effective way. THE THUNER THE BETTER.
19 posted on 05/07/2003 7:10:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Seriesly. This is hugh.)
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To: SoDak
I see. The Rapid City Journal. They're on my favorites. Everyone who wants Daschle defeated should add the RCJ to their favorites. I don't think they like Daschle. They are chipping away at what's left of his image.
20 posted on 05/07/2003 7:13:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Seriesly. This is hugh.)
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