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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: zeugma
but the facts are that trying to effectively organize folks of a libertarian bent is pretty much like herding cats, but less enjoyable.

Very fun to watch, though.

381 posted on 05/06/2003 1:57:25 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: zeugma
This is the liberal disease ... trivia (( fantasy )) absolute --- truth // reality vacated -- relativists !
382 posted on 05/06/2003 1:58:53 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: f.Christian
Will fire depts need entry warrants ...

A completely different question is at issue here. A fire department would be acting in the performance of their mandate if there were a fire. If not, they ought to have a valid reason to be there.

if the cops are technically wrong about something ---
oj is innocent -- framed !

I must assume that this is a part of a single thought. It's hard to tell though, as you are posting like someone not entirely in command of his facilities, but yes, I'd support the premise, that if the cops commit a 'techicality', then an obviously guilty man must go free. It is this very concept that keeps us even marginally safe from massive abuses of power.

The very concept of 'tainted fruit' as it relates to evidenciary (sp?) relavance protects all from the likelihood of 'rogue elements' being able to unjustly railroad people.

It is just that a thousand guilty should go free to protect the innocent from unjust imprisionment.

383 posted on 05/06/2003 1:59:26 PM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: f.Christian
Speak english or be ignored.
384 posted on 05/06/2003 2:00:32 PM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: GummyIII
"Why didn't some parents go in legitimately and take pics? The school is paid for with the community tax monies. Parents have a right to know what their kids are being taught. (For those that don't know, I teach.)"

A very good question. Some here, apparently, do not realize that they can go to the school during normal school hours and arrange for a visit to their children's classrooms when classes are not in session. They can arrange for a meeting with their childrens' teachers, something very few parents ever bother to do.

Of course, if you blast into the administration office accusing everyone of being a commie at the top of your lungs, you're not likely to get too much cooperation, I'd guess. [grin]
385 posted on 05/06/2003 2:00:43 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: zeugma
The criteria is reasonable doubt --- reasonable ...

not (( reason )) in the faculties of liberals (( lies // evasions )) --- you !
386 posted on 05/06/2003 2:02:58 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: MineralMan
mm ...

You may not like the fact that people can hold political views far from yours, but that does not mean they are breaking any laws.

fC ...

how about teaching liberal bias and ideology in public schools ---

it's not supposed to be a bolshevik monopoly --- jihad !
387 posted on 05/06/2003 2:13:42 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: MineralMan
I have explained at some schools, they remove questionable materials when they know they are having a visitor, as in the case where I brought a trustee to visit a certain classroom. I mentioned this in an earlier post.
388 posted on 05/06/2003 2:19:04 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: MineralMan; GummyIII
Exactly! that's what I'm saying. One does not have to announce oneself. What was it sharon stone said.. "what are you going to do, arrest me?"
389 posted on 05/06/2003 2:23:27 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: MineralMan
Actually, being a Communist is not against the law in this country, nor can anyone be fired for being a Communist and being a public school teacher.

Wrong!

CALIFORNIA CODES
EDUCATION CODE
SECTION 88060-88139


88122. In addition to any causes for suspension or dismissal which are designated by rule of the commission, employees in the classified service shall be suspended and dismissed in the manner provided by law for any one or more of the following causes:
(a) Knowing membership by the employee in the Communist Party.
(b) Conduct specified in Section 1028 of the Government Code.
390 posted on 05/06/2003 2:26:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: MineralMan
... it's (( liberalism // atheism )) not supposed to be an uncontested -- UNQUESTIONED bolshevik monopoly --- jihad !
391 posted on 05/06/2003 2:28:45 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: hedgetrimmer
"88122. In addition to any causes for suspension or dismissal which are designated by rule of the commission, employees in the classified service shall be suspended and dismissed in the manner provided by law for any one or more of the following causes:
(a) Knowing membership by the employee in the Communist Party.
(b) Conduct specified in Section 1028 of the Government Code.

"

If I am not mistaken, that section is no longer in force. I'll have to research it tomorrow, though.
392 posted on 05/06/2003 2:51:29 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: Leftymasher; RonF

Not necessarily, unless the beliefs are too bizarre or too radical or too seditious, but attempting to undermine parental authority or proselytizing one's political beliefs or trying to make little mental clones of oneself in the minds of the students would be beyond the pale.

The policeman is not there on a crimes investigation that I am aware of, but as a concerned citizen he has a right to investigate and share any information he finds about the teacher.

393 posted on 05/06/2003 4:38:56 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: MineralMan
Let's suppose that the cop was a flaming lib and the teacher was a conservative that had posters on his wall praising Thatcher, Reagan and William F. Buckley. Suppose that the students made projects extolling the virtues of GWB. If the cop got into the classroom to snap pics, we would be P.O.'s BIG TIME.
394 posted on 05/06/2003 4:49:13 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Hardly so. The leftist cop in your pretend scenario would be laughed at for his little crusade against decency.
395 posted on 05/06/2003 4:52:28 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: MineralMan

The fact that the man who snapped the pictures was a cop is immaterial to the discussion. He is a citizen with rights, too, and as far as I am aware this is not a 'police matter' at all.

396 posted on 05/06/2003 4:54:50 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: anniegetyourgun; All
In case nobody has mentioned it - Rush has the pictures up at his website. You will not like what you see ..!!
397 posted on 05/06/2003 4:55:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: dead
The cop stepped over the line here. If he wasn't on official business, he has no more of a right to be in that building at 1:30 in the morning than anybody else.

I used to be in the school after hours. It's a public building.

398 posted on 05/06/2003 5:07:03 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Let's suppose that the cop was a flaming lib and the teacher was a conservative that had posters on his wall praising Thatcher, Reagan and William F. Buckley. Suppose that the students made projects extolling the virtues of GWB. If the cop got into the classroom to snap pics, we would be P.O.'s BIG TIME.

Why? It's liberals that are afraid of truth and exposure, not conservatives.

399 posted on 05/06/2003 5:10:28 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: grapeape

Exactly. There's a small cabal of anarcho-ideologue loons who make every effort to bash the police and American self-governance at every opportunity.

400 posted on 05/06/2003 5:17:59 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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