Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom

Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

[Feckless]

I listened to Rush talk about this first hour.
What I don't understand is why no parents have taken their kids out of the class/school or kicked this Commie scum's @$$.

[anniegetyourgun]

All true, but don't hold your breath. Remember, there are two Americas now. There are those who see no problem with this and send their kids to such schools. Then there are the rest of us who would rather vote absentee than darken the door of a government school building. I just want the former to stop leeching off the latter to fund indoctrination camps for their kids.

[ValerieUSA]

The cop did not step over the line. He is a citizen and a taxpayer, too. Nothing in that classroom should have been kept secret from anyone. He didn't do anything wrong.
The teacher did cross the line.

[anniegetyourgun]

See #102

[MineralMan]

"1) Tell me where in the USA in public school that a child would be allowed to do a pro-life project?

"

In my town in California, for example. My neighbor's daughter did just such a project in her Junior Year social studies class. The assignment was to do a presentation on a social issue. She did a pro-life presentation. No doubt someone did a pro-choice presentation. She rehearsed it for me and my wife the day before.

I asked her what other kids were doing. Race issues, immigration, gun control...all were among the topics. Now, do you actually know of a school where such would _not_ be permitted in those circumstances.

[dirtboy]

You are not involved in politics at all are you? This has been going on since the beginning of time.

And it's not a good idea to have a public law enforcement official on public time pursuing a political agenda. What if this had been some liberal cop going after a conservative teacher? I get most of the folks on this thread cheering this action would be singing a completely different tune. And that's why I disagree with what this cop did - it could just as easily have been used against us.

[mewzilla]

I'd like to know why the door to that room was locked...

[thepitts]

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,”

Neither the republicans nor the demorats are going to like this.

[dirtboy]

But don't you think the police officer was proactively protecting the civil rights of the students?

Oh, that's a load if I ever saw one. It isn't the job of a cop to make that kind of political value judgement. That job belongs to the school board, the parents, and, if needed, the judiciary.

[r9etb]

But don't you think the police officer was proactively protecting the civil rights of the students?

He may have thought he was. But he shouldn't have done what he did, the way he did it. There are plenty of other ways to get those pictures.

[Freedom2specul8]

I just can't stand it... I know they do that in jr high..but not in elementary school..at least in our area. If the schools don't have anything to hide..they don't need runners escorting peers.

I realize this is a security issue..and they don't want the kids being kidnapped etc. If I'm going to check my child out of school, and I feel it necessary to "pop in" to the class room unnannounced, I will do it, and I will escort her to the office and sign her out. I've done it before. I wouldn't just walk out without telling the office.

[dead]

Tell me where in the USA in public school that a child would be allowed to do a pro-life project?

Tell me where they're not.

These are high school students. I am not aware of any laws that control the content of individual high school students' art projects.

And a cop who used his uniform and badge to gain access to a school late at night and take pictures of a pro-life art project in order to pursue some political retribution against the teacher would be out of line.

[grapeape]

You have no idea what you are talking about. None of what you said has any relevance. If police units can't enter buildings any time they want then we can not have police units at all.

Look at this ridiculous quote Cops don't have the right to do anything they want any time they want. No one said this quit putting words into our mouths.

So now you think that you are going to make the leap from your invalid accusation to this? Any place that does allow cops to do that is called a 'police state' NO. Your Points are wrong, your attempt to blame the janitor is just plain mean, and your conclusions are intentionally misleading.

[spunkets]

"If the child is supposed to evaluate what their parents say, then it stands to reason they are to listen when they want and do whatever they please the rest of the time. Nice work Treece.

I've seen teachers like this. They sell themselves as the most reasonable person the children have ever met. Then they push their agenda. "I don't care what you believe, just make sure you can defend it." Most kids think, wow, what a cool dude. This guy is very open and HONEST. If he thinks the president is a putz, he may be.

If Treece is challenged he simply says, "Hey, I'm just teaching kids to think for themselves." I would disagree. He is destroying their beliefs system in order to instill his own. Can his ass.

You don't have to display things like Treece does, to be effective in the classroom."

How about slick willy, or FDR? Should teachers be quiet about their antics to satisfy the wishes of their leftist parents? There's still folks with family loyalties to the rat party, that date back to FDR. They don't think before they vote, they just vote in accord with family tradition.

[dirtboy]

Not only does he have the right to enter a Public Building he has a duty.

If a crime or a suspected crime has been called in.

You have been busted and you are going to be drug through the mud and your schools are going to be put out of business by vouchers!!!! Goodby Utopians...

Nice pointless personal attack. First of all, I don't like public schools much. But I like limited government much, much better, especially when it comes to a cop trying to squelch someone's opinion while on official duty, even if I think the person being squelched is a liberal scumbag. Because if you support this, the same methods can be used against YOU later.

[Blood of Tyrants]

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

As if he somehow managed to make the camera take pictures of what really wans't there?

[ValerieUSA]

Teachers often bring their own possessions to the classroom to use as teaching aids and decor. It is reasonable to allow them to lock the rooms after hours - especially if the building's main doors are left unlocked.
It is also reasonable for the custodian to allow a police officer or even a parent into the room after hours upon request.

[r9etb]

The teacher did cross the line.

Agreed. And so did the cop.

And he was stupid, too: even here among those who agree with Mott's underlying point, the subject is not Treece's egregious classroom antics, so much as it is Mott's actions.

One can easily predict the response among the politically agnostic, and certainly on the Left.

[grapeape]

Wouldn't care at all. He can photograph the whole school. Who cares? He's a cop.. They are photographs. I want him there.

[hellinahandcart]

and the custodian is a walking cliche.

;D