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Two Women Accused of Locking Boys in Closet Threatened (Kenmore Update)
WJW Fox 8 ^ | May 6, 2003 | The Associated Press and FOX Television Stations

Posted on 05/06/2003 8:54:30 AM PDT by mabelkitty

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To: mabelkitty
Bowen Carter and experts on child abuse say they might never know why Rowles and Jenkins would treat the children differently.

Gee, dontcha wonder what the qualifications are to be an expert?

41 posted on 05/06/2003 11:18:46 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob
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To: ThanhPhero; try phecta tom; Diddle E. Squat
Maybe it would be easy to guess or figure out, but that's not the point. A reporter is supposed to give an explanation for bizarre things that come up in his story--not to leave them unexplained and make the reader guess at what should have been included as a obvious fact.

The point is that this reporter or his editor deliberately contorted himself in ten different ways to avoid mention of these women's sexual deviancy, as if it were not the least bit relevant. It's like the 10,000 lb. gorilla in the room. Tell us why they are prima facie such weird people (especially "Dad") and let US decide if it's relevant to the fact that they are evil, cruel sadists who get a kick out of kicking 10-year old boys in the balls and making them eat feces.

42 posted on 05/06/2003 11:19:10 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: mabelkitty
"She is scared, frightened, and shell-shocked..."

She can't believe that her attempts to be politically-correct and 'do the right thing' are being so misinterpreted.

She is only acting out the implicit philosophy of 'modern and progressive' child-rearing -- either 'fix' or destroy males.
43 posted on 05/06/2003 11:46:10 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: mabelkitty
Here's a thumbnail of the darling couple. Can anyone resize this?
44 posted on 05/06/2003 11:52:51 AM PDT by keats5
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To: The Old Hoosier
Media bias? It says that two women abused the kids and one of the women was called "Dad". Do they have to spell it out for you. BTW, do you scream bias when a man rapes a woman or a man abuses a child and it is not explicitly stated that it was a man who committed the rape?
45 posted on 05/06/2003 1:11:06 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
do you scream bias when a man rapes a woman or a man abuses a child and it is not explicitly stated that it was a man who committed the rape?

Uh, you want to tell me the last time that happened? "A person raped a woman..." Sorry, but no.

Maybe it would be easy to guess or figure out that these women are deviants, but to repeat myself from above: that's not the point. A reporter is supposed to give an explanation for bizarre things that come up in his story--not to leave them unexplained and make the reader guess at what should have been included as an obvious fact.

This reporter or his editor deliberately contorted this article in ten different ways to avoid mention of these women's sexual deviancy, as if it were not the least bit relevant. It's like the 10,000 lb. gorilla in the room. Tell us why they are prima facie such weird people (especially "Dad") and let US decide if it's relevant to the fact that they are evil, cruel sadists who get a kick out of kicking 10-year old boys in the balls and making them eat dog feces.

46 posted on 05/06/2003 1:33:27 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: keats5
Here you go. The face of evil.


47 posted on 05/06/2003 1:49:47 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: mabelkitty
"Neither woman has a criminal record"
That will change soon.
48 posted on 05/06/2003 2:14:53 PM PDT by Warren
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To: mabelkitty
Did either of these two women ask about the welfare of the children? Probably not, too concerned about themselves!
49 posted on 05/06/2003 2:15:27 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: The Old Hoosier
Let me guess. The dyke on the right is "Dad".

I doubt either will do the time they deserve. I just hope the kids get good foster home placements and are not forced to attend "family counseling" with the two perverts who have destroyed their childhood.

I hope the bio dad isn't as big a loser as the bio mom and can actually provide a nurturing environment. But how excited is his new wife or hunny going to be about becoming an instant mom of 5 messed up kids?

I have no confidence in the state, the courts or the social workers doing right by these poor kids. Just makes me sick.
50 posted on 05/06/2003 2:21:10 PM PDT by Valpal1 (We will sing in the golden city, in the new Jerusalem.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
First of all, the reporter may not know if the women are actually lesbians. It is very likely that the reporter has told the reader everything known about the two. Would you rather the writer infer "facts" or would you rather the writer give us the story and let us decide the situation at hand.

"should have been included as an obvious fact."

If it is obvious, then why point it out? We had record highs today. The sun causes the heat we have experienced.

51 posted on 05/06/2003 2:36:58 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: The Old Hoosier
'Dad' (the one on the right) looks like she has just a tad of an anger problem.
52 posted on 05/06/2003 3:27:42 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
First of all, the reporter may not know if the women are actually lesbians.

This was mentioned 3/4ths of the way down a prior article--also an outrage, since it belongs up top that they have been "partners" for seven years.

We had record highs today. The sun causes the heat we have experienced.

That's different. There's no conspiracy to deny the sun's involvement. Also, there are no loose ends in the story that require such an explanation. The reporter has done a hand-stand here to avoid mentioning the homosexuality, whereas he was all too eager to mention that they homeschool. He doesn't want to give the impression that homosexual parenthood is moral terrorism against children--which, by the way, is the truth of the matter.

Conversely, if the reporter had left out the part about homeschooling, wouldn't you wonder why no one had missed the kids at school? Well, in the same way, intelligent readers coming across this story at first must wonder why the hell there are two women there locking the kids up, and why one of them wants to be called "dad." Not that they can't guess it themselves, but reporters are not supposed to leave readers hanging like that--they're supposed to make the calls and figure it out.

53 posted on 05/06/2003 5:25:13 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: mabelkitty
They were not missing from any public or private school because they were home schooled.

Oh heavens, I was afraid of that!! There's always the danger that folks are going to try to sound the drumbeat to 'oversee' homeschoolers better because if this!<p.It is obvious that this 'couple' was not 'homeschooling' anyone, except maybe the little girl. What they were doing was abusing them. Why didn't the neighbors drop a dime on these two before now?

54 posted on 05/06/2003 5:49:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: goo goo g'joob
Gee, dontcha wonder what the qualifications are to be an expert?

Just remember, an EX is a has-been, and a SPURT is a drip under pressure!

55 posted on 05/06/2003 5:55:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: mabelkitty
Bullies don't like someone bullying them. What creeps these women are, and obviously they don't like boys.
56 posted on 05/06/2003 8:15:33 PM PDT by WaterDragon (Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in the 21st Century.)
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To: SuziQ
The article says the neighbors did drop a dime and nothing was done.

I almost hope the death threats are real.

These two should be locked up and their parental rights taken away.
57 posted on 05/06/2003 9:23:25 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
I am wondering if any other news outlet like FOX News(National) is reporting this story, or are they still
on the Luci Peterson case ? Is any newspaper reporting this story ?
58 posted on 05/07/2003 12:47:29 AM PDT by Orlando
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Here's a news report from the Beacon journal.


www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/2003/05/03/news/local/5776837.htm


"Two of the boys, ages 10 & 8 been locked in a 3 x 5 foot bedroom closet since mid-FEBRUARY !!!"

Here's the Custody Hearing report:


www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/5776813.htm


"The caseworker AMY VierHELLer of Summit County Children Service Board SHOULD BE FIRED, and ARRESTED !!!"

Come-on fox report this, give the Peterson case a break for crying out loud..
59 posted on 05/07/2003 1:26:38 AM PDT by Orlando
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