Women With Guns Fight Back

Fox News ^ | 5/6/03 | Wendy McElroy

[technochick99]

Women need to defend themselves, especially single women or those with husbands overseas. And the media has a responsibility to discuss honestly the issue of gun ownership. The John Walsh Show (search) on NBC may have dealt a blow (4/29) to both goals by "ambushing" three women who agreed to discuss their gun ownership and advocacy on air.

[Atlas Sneezed]

"Walsh claims to support the Second Amendment"

"He is a liar with regards to his claim. I have personally heard the man support the gun grabbers goals of guns in the hands of police and military only."

I have seen other cases where a man loses a child tragically to crime, and then becomes an activist on a related issue. "Cops-can-do-no-wrong" symdrome seems to be common in these folks. Perhaps wishing for more police power is a way of shifting some kind of (undeserved) guilt for failing to protect a child to the government.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Walsh has simply exploited his son's unfortunate tragedy and parlayed it into fame and fortune.

FOX should replace him as host of America's Most Wanted.

[MJemison]

4H Cookies are better. (Our daughter lasted 6 months in the Girl Scouts, but she has been in 4H for 6 years.)

[Petruchio]

Go get 'em TC!

[Feiny]

Walsh may have done us a favor by this ambush. I doubt many saw the show, but if this story gets more coverage.....it will help our cause alot.

[bc2]

make sure to add me to your RKBA ping list, please

thanks so much!

[Joe Brower]

Done!

[JudgeAmint]

First pictures in...

[technochick99]

Ya got that right!

[DaveCooper]

Bang

[CAPPSMADNESS]

Did you mean Pig or Ping???? :0)

[PatrioticAmerican]

John Walsh is anti-gun and pro-fascist. She lost his son and believes that a strong-handed law enforcement might have saved him. He became a "If it saves one life" guy. I don't hate John, and I wish his America's Most Wanted and other efforts lots of luck, but his stance that guns equate to violence is wrong. Plain wrong.

His attitude is a typical stance of bury his head in the sand and scream for somebody to do something, like make it all go away, as though he were a child. "Daddy, fix it." Many people take that stance. Many people won't think about what they are asking or doing, or not doing. They just want it all to stop any way they think they can. Nasty consequences aside.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

"KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON."

"IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!"

"DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL."

"DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU."
"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."


5 Rules of Conceal and Carry (like a pistol)

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* YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY.

Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and criminal activities of another.


* KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON.

The criminal adversary must have or reasonably appear to have:

A. The ABILITY to inflict serious bodily injury. He is armed or reasonably appears to be armed.

B. The OPPORTUNITY to inflict serious bodily harm. He is positioned to harm you with his weapon, and,

C. His INTENT (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy - to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these "attack potential" elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response. Note that these conditions may be defined differently in certain circumstances. For example, a small woman may be justified in using deadly force with a handgun against a much stronger male who is unarmed and attempting to rape or kill her. For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.


3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!

Just because you are armed doesn't necessarily mean that you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your situation awareness skills so that you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble as much as possible. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might only be your bruised ego, which should heal quickly with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation, and it escalates into deadly force, you risk the possibility of death or serious injury to yourself and any friends, family members, or innocent bystanders that may be present.

Also you face the possibility of criminal liability and/or financial ruin from a civil lawsuit as a result of your actions. Flee if you can - fight only as a last resort.

Naturally, there are circumstances in which you may be able to flee but it would not be in your best interest or judgment to do so. For example, a situation that you could easily flee from when alone may be difficult to safely avoid if your family was with you. Also it may be a judgment/ethics call on whether or not to fight or flee based on what is happening to potential victims around you.

For example, a gunman may be threatening the life of someone else and not even notice you. If you leave the scene, and go call 911 and just wait for the police to show up, you may have to deal with guilt and emotional issues that result if the gunman kills someone. In contrast, if you intervene, then you may risk your own life. Remember that self-preservation, and keeping your loved ones safe should be your first priorities. Always remember to stay calm and quickly analyze the situation at hand. Use good judgment on how you will react to any given circumstance.


4. DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL.

You should expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional, innocent, or justified the situation might seem.

Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times. You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed weapon. He of she might become alarmed and report you as a "man or woman with a gun". Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested. Even though your jacket only blew open for a moment, giving a brief glimpse of your gun, that person may tell the police that you were waving it around like a homicidal maniac. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man or woman with a gun" is going to be a lot more credible to police than you are when you are stopped because you match the "suspect's" description and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession. Before you deliberately expose your gun in public, ask yourself "is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least both the ABILITY and INTENT and is actively seeking the OPPORTUNITY to do you great harm.

Also, remember that proper concealment of a weapon is more than just covering it up so that it is not physically visible. You want to remove as much as possible any signs that you are armed. For example, you would not wear a tight T-shirt that shows the lines of your gun printing through it, especially if that T-shirt has a firearm related logo or statement on it. Also, a black nylon fanny-pack or a photographer's vest may, in certain areas or in certain modes of dress tell any half-educated person that you are packing a gun. It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun. This fact should be limited to your immediate family and select friends who are "gun people" also. Please, for your sake and the sake of others around you - be discreet!


5. DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU.

When you are armed, you must realize that you just lost your right to initiate ANY type of confrontation that could possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You must now have a very mellow attitude on life and your fellow mankind.

You just lost the right to flip off the motorist who just cut you off in traffic. You have to ignore the scumbag who just "wolf-whistled" at your wife/girlfriend. If someone wants to pick a fight with you, you lost the right to respond in any way other than a kind, friendly manner while walking away. As an armed person you must be more likely and willing to avoid trouble that an unarmed person would be. You have the legal and moral obligation of de-escalating any situation that you are presented with unless you are faced by someone displaying all three of the "attack potential" elements. Carrying a loaded firearm among your fellow citizens is an awesome responsibility that is not to be taken lightly.

Remember, once you strap on your weapon, you must carry with it a great measure of discretion and judgment, along with an easy-going attitude.

[Squantos]

Walsh should understand that just because he had a auto accident that doesn't now make him a better driver . Albeit I'm sorry for his loss and wish such on no one except the Rodhams, Walsh should stick to catching bad guys on his nooooose show and shuthaphucup on matters he has no knowledge of !

Stay Safe !

[Squantos]

My # 34 above was to you also....Stay Safe !

[technochick99]

bump

[Djarum]

I'm surprised to see such a story from Fox, considering Walsh hosts a show on their network.

[Jay D. Dyson]

Sylvia, whom the show described as "a former female gang member who says that she is now opposed to people owning guns for personal defense," was a surprise to the women.

Why is that a surprise? Criminals are no different than other punk-ass terrorists: they prefer that their victims be unarmed.

Self-defense is NOT a crime!

-Jay

[spectre]

Cool...

NICE gun! Love the color...:~)

sw

[JudgeAmint]

 

Ewww.Eww..Spec...this one is fully automatic...

:0)