[bonesmccoy]

There should be no cases of bankruptcy due to the cost of a physician's time.

In fact, I challenge you to cite references in this matter. The reason I know there are no such cases is that the patient has recourse (Medi-Care/AID).

The physician's offices have no such recourse and doctors are being consistently driven out of the market by the predatory practices of hospitals (which are in collusion with HMOs).

So, before you go trying to spin my statment, PROVE yours.

What patients have gone bankrupt from physician fees?

[freeper12]

>>So, before you go trying to spin my statment, PROVE yours.

I was agreeing with you and saying why should an HMO be guaranteed a profit when the other parties to the transaction (i.e. the doctor in your case, or the patients in my example) have no such guarantees.

I wasn't spinning anything...why don't you prove to me that no patient has ever had to declare bankrupty to get out of paying for medical expenses...which was my point.

Not sure why you got your panties all twisted in a knot.