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Booking Bennett
NRO ^ | 5/5/2003 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/05/2003 11:02:18 AM PDT by moneyrunner

I guess Aesop's Fables are now wrong.

You see, Bill Bennett's Book of Virtues contained various moral lessons from Aesop's Fables. So, if Bill Bennett has made a mistake in his personal life, he must have been wrong about the educational utility of everything in his book. And, come to think of it, every other virtue and moral and fable and story he ever promoted, advanced, or advocated must be wrong now as well. It's okay for kids to do drugs now, too, I suppose. And I guess it's okay for the president of the United States to enforce sexual-harassment laws while he plays the Sultan and the Slave Girl with an intern and then lies about it under oath. Hell, it must be okay for terrorists to blow up the World Trade Center now.

This sea change is all because Bill Bennett plays high-stakes video poker from midnight to 6:00 AM.

That seems to be the upshot of Joshua Green's and Jonathan Alter's newsitorials about Bill Bennett's gambling.

I find it hard to recall a more asinine and intellectually shameless "gotcha" story in my adult lifetime.

Before I sound like I'm protesting too much, let me get all of the full-disclosure and "yes, but" stuff out of the way. I'm a big believer in the looking-for-trouble school of life. Bennett bet millions in an environment where he had to know getting caught would likely get him in a lot of trouble. I think Bennett gambles too much and I completely understand why opponents of gambling and decent people generally are disappointed in Bennett. Also, I should note that I don't know Bennett that well. I've had one lunch with him and a total of maybe 20 minutes of conversation with him beyond that. I am close friends with some of his close friends. I've known about his gambling for years (though certainly not the dollar amounts) and I've been astounded by both the media's failure to catch him and the recklessness of Bennett's behavior — not the moral recklessness, necessarily, but the political recklessness. Many liberals despise Bill Bennett and — until now — their potshots rested on such inanities as his weight and his success. Now, fair or not, many liberal pundits will make snide comments about Bennett's gambling in a quasi-McCarthyite way — "Billy the Greek" or some such — as if they are alluding to some scandal we all know about that need not be explained.

But there is no scandal. Yes, Bennett made mistakes. And yes, I can surely see why some religious conservatives who take a dim view of gambling might be disappointed in the man. But I can assure you that any man — or woman — held in high esteem will disappoint the public in one way or another when scrutinized. "Disappointment," however, is not a standard taught at the Columbia School of Journalism. Usually, to have caused a "scandal," a public figure is supposed to have broken the law, lied, cheated, stolen, been hypocritical, or victimized someone in some significant way. But no one has charged any of these things. The only conceivable victims here are the Bennett family, and a little bird tells me that they'll do just fine. The same bird tells me that Alter and Green couldn't give a fig about Bennett's family. As for hypocrisy, neither author mentions the word.

Indeed, the stunner of the story — that Bennett wagered $8 million over the last decade — isn't even as stunning as Green and Alter desperately want it to be. There isn't any evidence that he lost $8 million dollars, only that he's bought $8 million in chips over a decade. If, as is more likely, his losses are half that, he'd have spent less than what numerous movie stars and CEOs spend on their country estates, private jets, and divorces.

Even the authors of the articles admit that the only thing Bennett has done is spend a lot of money on something you wouldn't expect Bill Bennett to be spending his money on. In other words, the "news" here is not that a "moralizer" or "virtuecrat" has betrayed his convictions, broken the law, or anything of the sort. The news here is that he likes to have a good time in a perfectly legal and unhypocritical way. But, the manner in which he has a good time shocks liberals who think "moralizers" can't enjoy life. We don't drink, except maybe in that bitter-white-guy way. We don't tell dirty jokes except perhaps as racists or sexists. We're either prudes or hypocrites or both. And so, when a prominent conservative "moralist" ends up behaving in a way that seems inappropriate in the light of liberal assumptions about conservatives, it must be newsworthy. If that behavior embarrasses him in front of religious conservatives all the better.

In fact, you can always tell there's a hit job in the works when the victim is criticized for not being hypocritical. "The popular author, lecturer and Republican Party activist speaks out, often indignantly, about almost every moral issue except one — gambling," writes Alter in Newsweek. "It's not hard to see why." Green is windier on this point, but writes, "If Bennett hasn't spoken out more forcefully on an issue that would seem tailor-made for him, perhaps it's because he is himself a heavy gambler." In other words, if Bennett had spoken out against gambling he'd have been denounced for hypocrisy. And if Bennett had spoken in favor of gambling, he'd have been denounced for defending his preferred vice. If he's in the crosshairs for A, he'd surely be in the crosshairs for not-A as well.

But the real sign that this is payback of a kind can be found in Green's comparisons to impeachment. Green slyly notes that Bennett "gambled throughout impeachment" as if this somehow compounds Bennett's iniquity. Excuse me, but what does one have to do with the other? Casino gambling, as Green notes, is state-sanctioned in 28 states. Throw in lotteries and you can count on one hand the number of states that don't endorse gambling. Meanwhile, lying under oath, "sleeping" with interns, minting bogus legal privileges to protect one's private conduct, etc., are not — to the best of my knowledge — sanctioned in any state. Local governments do not put up billboards reading "Live Your Dreams: Boink the Interns." Bennett is not in charge of enforcing the laws on gambling, the way Clinton was in charge of enforcing sexual-harassment laws. Bennett never promised the country in a 60 Minutes interview during a presidential campaign that he would never gamble again. I could go on, but ultimately the only similarity between the two cases is the one imposed on it by those who dislike "moralizing" conservatives.

WE'RE ALL HYPOCRITES NOW

This brings me to why these articles bother me so much. First of all, the real hypocrites here are the authors. Jonathan Alter and The Washington Monthly expended a lot of energy over the Clinton years making the case that private sins are off-limits, even when they affect public acts. Apparently, this is only the case for public figures they like. If you believe that personal privacy is the sanctum sanctorum of liberal democracy, you have to believe that's the case for people you dislike too. If you don't, then you simply believe privacy is something for the good guys.

Now, I don't agree with that. If Bennett were running for office, for example, his gambling would certainly be fair game. As it would be if Bennett had been either a pro-gambling crusader or an anti-gambling crusader. But he's not. This raises the first of many ironies. Bennett's gambling, as a private citizen, justifies public exposure according to his critics. But, they say, Clinton's adultery — never mind the steamer trunk of lies and other sins he lugged into the Oval Office — should have been off-limits. At first glance, this equation would seem to imply that quietly participating in a perfectly legal and state-promoted activity out of public view is a graver sin than rogering the 'terns in the Oval Office and committing perjury to conceal the act (see Jonathan Last for more on this point).

Say whatever you want about how much Bennett was asking for this, it doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of those who say that private vices should be off-limits. If you believe the private acts of homosexuals, recreational drug users, Wiccans, etc., are off limits, you should believe the private lives of upright Catholics aren't fair game either. Some anti-impeachment liberals get this. Peter Beinart, editor of The New Republic, said Sunday on CNN:

I don't like William Bennett, but I actually agree mostly with Jonah. . . . This is something he did in his private life, and I'm the kind of liberal who believes that basically what people do in their private lives, unless there's some blatant, serious hypocrisy, is really not anyone's business.

WE'RE ALL "MORALIZERS" NOW, TOO

But the biggest reason I find these Bennett articles so troublesome is what they reveal about the kind of society we're building. Hypocrisy is bad, but it's not the worst vice in the world. If I declared "murder is wrong" and then killed somebody, I would hope that the top count against me would be homicide, not hypocrisy. Liberal elites — particularly in Hollywood — believe that hypocrisy is the gravest sin in the world, which is why they advocate their own lifestyles for the entire world: Sleep with whomever you want, listen to your own instincts, be true to yourself, blah, blah, blah. Our fear of hypocrisy is forcing us to live in a world where gluttons are fine, so long as they champion gluttony.

In fact, let's take gluttony as an example. Let's say that Bennett is guilty of the sin of gluttony. Having had lunch with him, this is not a wild-eyed hypothesis. Does that mean Bennett would be a more admirable person if he advocated that we all become overeaters? Bennett reasonably compares gambling to drinking alcohol (another form of gluttony). Should Bennett go on Larry King Live and celebrate the joys of crapulence? That's the logical upshot of Green's Washington Monthly piece (and Josh Marshall's defense of it). If we speak out against any vice we must not only speak out against all of them, we must not be guilty of any of them — even the ones we ourselves do not see as a vice. And if we are guilty, we should defend our sin, own it, celebrate it, even to the point of claiming it was never a sin at all. Because if we don't, we will be guilty of hypocrisy.

Take Madonna. Not to put too fine a point on it: She was a slut and she preached the joys of sluttiness to everyone, rich and poor, young and old. That made her rich and something of a feminist hero because she was an "authentic" slut, feeling no guilt or shame about it. Today, with millions upon millions in the bank she says she's not only given up her trampy ways, she realizes she was wrong all along. And, again, she's being saluted for it in profiles and interviews throughout the media (this is something I started complaining about years ago — see here and here).

So does this mean that being a slut was a good thing when Madonna said it was a good thing? Were the 16-year-old girls who followed her example in 1985 right for following it then? Were the consequences of following Madonna's example — pregnancy, AIDS, even (shudder) low self-esteem — somehow nonexistent back then because only the "moralizers" were warning about them? Or could it just possibly mean that the "moralizers" —who were sneered at by the mainstream press — were right all along and that Madonna is only now coming to her senses? Madonna can afford her sins. She says she can "handle" motherhood while at the same time bragging that she's never changed a diaper.

Well, Bennett can afford his sins, too. But just as a glutton would be a moral fool to champion gluttony to someone with a heart condition, Bennett understands that a gambler would be a moral fool to champion gambling to people who cannot afford it. Not so, though, according to Green:

Bennett is a wealthy man and may be able to handle losses of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Of course, as the nation's leading spokesman on virtue and personal responsibility, Bennett's gambling complicates his public role. Moreover, it has already exacted a cost. Like him or hate him, William Bennett is one of the few public figures with a proven ability to influence public policy by speaking out. By furtively indulging in a costly vice that destroys millions of lives and families across the nation, Bennett has profoundly undermined the credibility of his word on this moral issue.

You might have missed the word "furtively" there. Furtive means "secretly" or "in stealth." The clear implication being that Bennett would have been less guilty of whatever it is he's guilty of if he hadn't been "furtive" about it. This is 100 percent wrong. His furtiveness is morally redeeming, not damning. The hypocrisy fetishists seem to believe that our role models and spokesmen should be perfect — perfect in their sinfulness or perfect in their saintliness. And, at all times they should be proselytizers of both. What a morally unserious and dangerous way to organize a society.

Bennett is a big, sloppy Irish Catholic guy from Brooklyn who believes in old-fashioned morality and decency. He's not perfect, but he's been focusing our attention on the right things. When charged with hypocrisy, Max Scheler — the moral philosopher who dallied with the ladies — responded that the sign pointing to Boston doesn't have to go there. America is a better place because Bennett pointed in the right direction. Tearing him down is a sorry, pitiful, and deeply hypocritical way for supposed champions of privacy to tear down the man instead of his arguments. If you disagree, fine. Tell me where he was wrong. Don't tell me that the messenger is a sinner — we all knew that. Tell me what's wrong with the message. What passage in The Book of Virtues was invalidated when Bennett put the first $500 chip into the machine?

Oh, and one last thing. You might have noticed that I keep putting quotation marks around the word "moralizer." I do this for the simple reason that Green, Alter, Marshall, and the legions of other liberals who don't like "moralizers" are shocking hypocrites if not outright liars. Everyone moralizes. The suggestion that liberals aren't moralizers is so preposterous it makes it hard for me to take any of them seriously when they wax indignant about "moralizers." Almost everyday, they tell us what is moral or immoral to think and to say about race, taxes, abortion — you name it. They explain it would be immoral for me to spend more of my own money on my own children when that money could be spent by government on other peoples' children. In short, they think moralizing is fine. They just want to have a monopoly on the franchise.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bennett; gambling; goldberg; jonahgoldberg; liberalpropaganda; libertarianmorality; wodlist
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To: AbsoluteJustice
If Bennett is lying about his losses, don't you think that's a problem?

Not really because noone can hold him to it.

From the original article: In one two-month period, the documents show Bennett wiring more than $1.4 million to cover losses at one casino.

241 posted on 05/05/2003 2:33:07 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: moneyrunner
Libs will take this as a means of marginalizing moral values. But the fact of the matter is that Bennett doesn't have to be a saint to understand his own wisdom. Because nobody ever said it was easy being moral.
242 posted on 05/05/2003 2:33:09 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Nah they won't marginalize moral values, they will marginalize Bill Bennett. Rather, Bennett is marginalizing himself.
243 posted on 05/05/2003 2:34:44 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: kjam22
” I agree that we shouldn't argue over the meaning of simple words.... like Sin.”

Oh, we can argue about what constitutes sin all the time. In fact, I have a big problem with people who re-define their personal immoralities and claim that they are not sins.

” But I would tell you that there are a lot of people in this country that have a moral problem with someone spending a lot of their time and money in casino's.”

You are absolutely right. My parents found gambling sinful. My father once chastised my mother for returning the Reader’s Digest Sweepstakes coupons. That is why Bill Bennett has stated that he will not gamble any more. Not because he believed it to be a sin, but because a certain group in our society believes it is sinful.

” Gambling is not the only sin that Casino's specialize in. And Bennett's problem is that his market has been those same people.”

I have a problem with this statement on several levels. First, casinos today are much more family oriented than years ago. Las Vegas today is a couples tourist attraction. The suggestion that men go there to pick up hookers is simply no more true of Las Vegas than of New York or Chicago. Second, I believe that Bill Bennett was not preaching to the choir. His “market” was all of America, not the Church Ladies who cluck their tongues at the sight of a bare ankle.

”Secondly... where did you ever read a definition of sin that describes it or limits it to "depriving your family of necessities"?????”

That’s a simple one. Most Catholics, and I estimate the vast majority of Americans, do not consider gambling a “sin” per-se. However, if gambling becomes a habit that takes food out of the mouths of the children or squanders the rent money, most people would consider it a sin. (Or if they no longer believe in the term “sin” probably consider it to be “bad.”)

244 posted on 05/05/2003 2:40:25 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: billbears
Yup. I think you actually have to go back to 1994 to find any critical remarks of Bill Bennett. Back then, NR was somewhat critical of Bennett and Jack Kemp for their positions on Prop. 187.
245 posted on 05/05/2003 2:48:04 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: moneyrunner
Tell me where he was wrong. Don't tell me that the messenger is a sinner — we all knew that. Tell me what's wrong with the message. What passage in The Book of Virtues was invalidated when Bennett put the first $500 chip into the machine?

I think Jonah has it right.

If this is about "hypocrisy", blame the Liberals. They slosh around in it!

246 posted on 05/05/2003 2:57:25 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: gdani
Bennett already looked like a fool even before the gambling story because he constantly lectures about other peoples' vices -- yet he probably tips the scales at about 300 lbs.

What a sad pathetic creature. Standing in front of a slot machine all night gambling away millions of dollars. Sounds like a lonely and miserable existence. This man is crying for help both his physical appearence and his warped behavior. This is not normal.

If any of us had walked past this huge lonely man at 5:00 am and witnessed him pumping $500 into a machine for hours on end, I am sure we would have pitied him.

247 posted on 05/05/2003 3:09:28 PM PDT by Diago
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To: moneyrunner
Jonah did skewer Mr.B for his actions. And Mr. Bennett also acknowledged this wasn't the example he wishes to set....

STATEMENT OF WILLIAM J. BENNETT: 'A number of stories in the media have reported that I have engaged in high stakes gambling over the past decade. It is true that I have gambled large sums of money. I have also complied with all laws on reporting wins and losses. Nevertheless, I have done too much gambling, and this is not an example I wish to set. Therefore, my gambling days are over...'

248 posted on 05/05/2003 3:10:58 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Mr. Mojo
No Mr. Mo, I do not adhere to the notion that "No one is beyond criticism." Regardless of one's political view or ideology, dialogue is a two-way street, which many attempt to ignore.

But, imho, your above reply seems to present a remote and feeble conjecture of moral equivalency in Bennett's gambling and the Toon getting serviced in the Oval Office. Your statement: "That's just as bad as dems"...just doesn't wash or cut it.

BTW, "I don't judge people"...it's way beyond my retired military pay-grade. The only "judgement" I can exhibit, in the world of politics, is not to vote for slimey socialist, American-hating democRats.

Mustang sends from "Malpaso" News.
249 posted on 05/05/2003 3:14:13 PM PDT by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: moneyrunner
If you are a multi-millionaire and can be entertained by playing high stakes video poker, it’s no sin, as long as you are not depriving your family of its necessities. It’s no different from other expensive hobbies like collecting cars or owning a yacht. In all of these examples, you know it’s going to cost you money.

If Bennett and his defenders are willing to cut the same slack to a successful businessman who likes to light up a doobie over the weekend, or to a millionare playboy who likes to sleep with a different babe each week, then that's a valid argument.

They aren't, so it isn't.

250 posted on 05/05/2003 3:15:41 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Mustang
No, I wasn't drawing any comparisons between the former rapist/purjerer in-chief and Bill Bennett. The former is beyond contempt, and is a crimminal; the latter I just don't like.
251 posted on 05/05/2003 3:18:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kjam22
Secondly... where did you ever read a definition of sin that describes it or limits it to "depriving your family of necessities"?

The definition of "sin" is the crux of the issue.

For instance, a libertarian has a definition of "sin" (coercively infringing upon the rights of others to their persons, property, and freedom of action) which excludes gambling, along with many of the things Bennett has made a career of denouncing (or incarcerating).

A traditionalist conservative has a different definition of "sin", which includes most or all of Bennett's pet peeves, and also includes gambling.

The defenders of Bennett seem to be basing their argument upon a custom-crafted definition of "sin" which includes the things of which Bennett disapproves while conveniently excluding gambling. I find these attempts to define "sin" to be on a par with recent attempts to redefine the words "alone", "sex", and "is".

252 posted on 05/05/2003 3:20:29 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: JohnGalt
so called conservatives are going to hysterical lengths, including associating Bennett with the life of Jesus,

But it's perfectly acceptable for you, a "so-called conservative" going to the hysterical length of calling the comparison between Bennett and the Dixie Chicks as a great "juxtaposition"?

253 posted on 05/05/2003 3:45:40 PM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: Mr. Mojo; AbsoluteJustice; mabelkitty; Mustang; Nick Danger; borkrules
And here in a nutshell we have the basis of a good many arguments here on FR about Bennett:

I give 2 rats A$$ESSSSS what this man does LEGALLY with his own dough.

Quite frankly, neither do I. He can spend it all on lap dances at strip clubs for all I care. I just don't like that holier-than-thou SOB, and I never have.

This is exactly the argument many on the left are guilty of concerning the War on Iraq, among other issues, they attack the conservatives for.

Remind you of this one? :
"Of course Saddam is an evil treacherous tyrant. I wouldn't have him over for tea, BUT... I don't think Mr. Bush has any business telling the Iraqi people who their leader should be."

Read between the lines - the attacks are based on something other than the issue. They are based on their despisal of him, pure and simple. Just as the attacks on Bennett are, here.

254 posted on 05/05/2003 3:53:47 PM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: CobaltBlue; mabelkitty
Scott Ritter said the same thing about his "sealed" criminal records

Uh-huh. So now Bennett's gambling loss records released by the casinos (illegally, many are stating, I have no idea), are comparable to "SEALED CRIMINAL RECORDS"? As you said to another FReeper, Nice Try.

255 posted on 05/05/2003 3:56:22 PM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: mr.pink
Almost right. This "outing" has got to be a Larry Flint special coordinated with the Democrats' nascent attempt to cast the tax cut issue in a bad light. Don't ask me to explain the logic. I'm sure the polling gives them some edge on this.

A true politician, Bennett isn't, would have innoculated himself on the issue long ago. I'm not bother by the gambling. I'm bothered by the perceived hypocrisy of the writers. No liberal bias in the media, huh?
256 posted on 05/05/2003 3:57:55 PM PDT by playball0 (Fortune favors the bold)
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To: cgk
And the reason I don't like him? Well, his hypocrisy, of course. ...And that IS the issue here, is it not?
257 posted on 05/05/2003 3:58:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kjam22
Selling virtue like the snake oil sales man

Well this takes the cake. A so-called conservative quoting Hillary Clinton.

"Misplaced priorities and wrongheaded policies are this administration’s answer to everything," Clinton said. "They’re kind of like the old snake oil salesman. "

Taken from her speech made April 28, 2003.

258 posted on 05/05/2003 4:02:44 PM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: cgk
Well this takes the cake. A so-called conservative quoting Hillary Clinton.

It takes a village idiot to defend Bill Bennett.

259 posted on 05/05/2003 4:07:13 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: playball0
I'm not bother by the gambling. I'm bothered by the perceived hypocrisy of the writers. No liberal bias in the media, huh?

Personally, I'm not bothered by the gambling either, but if I had 8 mil disposable, I wouldn't hand it to gangsters $500 at time.

Yup, the hypocrisy of the writers can be cited, but Bill's own hypocrisy gave them the club they will now use to beat him. He's gotta' take his beating like a man, and so far it seems he'd doing that.

As someone who had grown very tired of his schtick, I may find him a lot more likeable after he's been humbled and has toughed this out.
260 posted on 05/05/2003 4:08:28 PM PDT by mr.pink
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