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1 posted on 05/05/2003 7:58:14 AM PDT by Lance Romance
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I recently heard that Hillery Clinton had an affair with Foster! And that she was the first in his office and removed files. Has anyone else heard this?????


2 posted on 05/05/2003 8:03:18 AM PDT by SheLion
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You know, it's not really the economy that may unseat W's re-election chances, but the fact that he didn't vigorously investigate and prosecute the Clintonista crime family.

Letting Mary Jo White-Wash stay on and failing to root out massive vote fraud means the mechanism for Hillary's upcoming election theft attempt is still in place.

3 posted on 05/05/2003 8:04:10 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Ted Olson sat on the board of directors at the American Spectator where opinion was split on the 'Foster' question. Tyrell sided with Ambrose Evans Pritchard, where as John Corry sided against Scaife publishing.


Thought it would be worth making the side note for the ever small world of the DC Ruling Class.
6 posted on 05/05/2003 8:06:58 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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16 posted on 05/05/2003 8:15:25 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Nice to see that Mr. Favish is still pursuing this. If it wasn't for his efforts (plus the efforts of certain others -- Hugh Sprunt, for example), we wouldn't know nearly as much as we do now regarding the holes in the govt's version of what happened to Foster.
18 posted on 05/05/2003 8:19:50 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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22 posted on 05/05/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Bump
37 posted on 05/05/2003 9:16:36 AM PDT by girlscout
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read later
38 posted on 05/05/2003 9:27:54 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: AJFavish; aristeides; thinden; leadpenny; basil
The attorney, Allan Favish, already has been given more than 100 pictures, including photos of Foster's car and the Virginia park site.

Best of luck Allan.

40 posted on 05/05/2003 9:45:00 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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conspiracy
46 posted on 05/05/2003 10:48:11 AM PDT by green team 1999
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Once Upon A Time In Arkansas....and frontline leans left.
50 posted on 05/05/2003 10:56:26 AM PDT by green team 1999
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Inaccuracies Regarding Foster's Death

There follows a list of suspicious events, observations, and circumstances, taken from the 2,726 pages of the 1994 Senate Hearings and Report Volumes that cover the death of Vince Foster. To find out how you can receive a 160 page synopsis of this material, put together by Stanford and MIT grad Hugh Sprunt, direct your inquiry to HSprunt@aol.com.
  1. While both the Fiske report and the Senate hearings volumes refer to the Foster "suicide" note as if it were proven to be genuine, three independent handwriting experts have determined conclusively that it is a FORGERY. Yet the falsehood continues without question.
  2. No fingerprints on the gun.
  3. No proof that it was his gun.
  4. Suspicious people seen in and around victim's car just before the body was found.
  5. Eyewitnesses saw the victim's briefcase in his car, yet the briefcase vanished.
  6. All 35mm film of crime scene was either "overexposed" or it vanished.
  7. Most of the Polaroid photos vanished.
  8. "Independent" investigator Fiske was forced to concede that the victim's head _had_ been moved---after death had taken place and before his body was photographed.
  9. Car keys were not found with victim at crime scene, nor were they to be found in his car, yet the conclusion that was immediately arrived at . . was suicide!
  10. The first non-official to see the body said their was no gun in sight; so did the first official to see the body.
  11. No blood splatter found. (High velocity .38 bullets through the mouth and head leave spatter!)
  12. No bone fragments were found, yet part of the victim's skull was missing, according to some reports.
  13. X-rays vanished with no explanation.
  14. Dr. Beyer, the examining physician, has a history of mistaking homicide for suicide. In some instances he stated X-rays had been taken; in other instances he stated they had not. Dr. Beyer was 75 yr. old at the time of the autopsy.
  15. According to some reports, Foster's head wound not consistent with a high velocity .38 caliber bullet. Dr. Haut's statement to the FBI was that the exit hole was very small. In total contradiction, the Fiske report says Dr. Haut's determination was that the hole was very large.
  16. No fingerprints were found on the torn-up "suicide" note. But a palm print was. No determination was made that it was Foster's palm print.
  17. Wound seen on Foster's neck by paramedics. One described it as a bullet hole.
  18. Dr.Haut & paramedics said they viewed the body in a location that is 200 feet from the site officially described.
  19. The cannon near where some witnesses say the body was found has been removed from the park.
  20. One paramedic listed the death as a homicide on his report.
  21. Numerous hairs and carpet fibers covered Foster's clothing. But his car was never checked to see if any of the same fibers could be found on the driver's seat, as surely there would have been found, had he actually driven himself to Fort Marcy Park.
  22. Whereabouts of victim in hours before death remains a mystery.
  23. The list of items in his "suicide note" could simply have been some reflection of his plans to resign his White House position.
  24. Only two bullets in the gun. No matching bullets were to be found in his home or car.
  25. The victim planned to give his visiting sister a tour of the White House the next day.
  26. The victim's friend and attorney, Jim Lyons, was coming from Colorado to meet with him the next day.
  27. Foster had a full lunch before leaving to kill himself, was jovial, and told his staff he would be back later in the day.
  28. In spite of an exhaustive search, no matching bullet was ever found.
  29. The attitude of the body was not consistent with suicide. It was laid out straight, with arms neatly at his side.
  30. No one heard the shot. Few people in the surrounding area were even asked. The closest house, under construction, was only 400 ft. away.
  31. The FBI was kept out of the initial investigation.
  32. The lead investigator assigned to go to the body site was performing his first homicide investigation.
  33. Victim's appointment book was never found.
  34. Victim had been making _overnight_, two-day trips to Switzerland which his wife didn't know about. Indications are that he had a Swiss bank account which had been mysteriously emptied of $2.7 million a week before he died. His last planned trip to Switzerland had, for reasons unknown, been canceled.
  35. Victim had been a $300,000 a year lawyer, yet in last weeks before his death he had a chronically overdrawn checking account!
  36. Police were prevented from searching victim's home and office.
  37. Victim's widow was not interviewed for ten days after the death. Apparently she was shown a gun, silver in color, that was identified as the weapon used. She said it looked like the "silver-colored revolver" she had previously seen at home. The ABC photo very clearly shows a black gun in Foster's hand.
  38. No proof that gun found with victim had fired the fatal shot.
  39. Photos and reports in the possession of the Park Police and FBI are being kept from public view. (Just like the Zapruder film in 1963.)
  40. The Fiske Report contains numerous factual errors regarding time and geography at crime scene. It reports a large pool of blood under Foster's head, even though no one who was at the site made any such report, and some of them, including Dr. Haut and Corey Ashford, specifically stated to the FBI that there was no blood on the ground. (Ashford is one of the medical technicians who picked Foster's body up to remove it from the scene.)
  41. One vehicle seen at park by police and rescue eyewitnesses is ignored in the official record of the case.
  42. Park Police concluded their investigation before they sent the gun for testing to see if it could fire.
  43. Death was ruled a suicide before the investigators viewed the body.
  44. The crime scene was never totally secured. (There are access roads near the body-site, in the opposite direction from the parking lot where Foster's car was found. Access to the body, from these roads, was never blocked off in any way.
  45. No damage whatsoever to victim's teeth from the recoil of a .38, allegedly placed in his mouth. This pistol has a rather substantial steel aiming device mounted at the top of the end of the 4-inch barrel.
  46. Conflicting testimony re: the time at which the victim was identified.
  47. There is no evidence to support the Fiske report that the victim had lost weight . The only evidence is that he had gained weight.
  48. Conflicting testimony as to when the White House was told of the death---from as early as 6:00 PM, according to the initial report from Chelsea's nanny, to the official time of 8:30 PM.
  49. The phone number of a Secret Service officer was found in the notebook of Park Police investigator Rolla. Immediately following this entry was the address and phone number of Vince Foster. When asked about this during his deposition, Rolla got nervous and flustered.
  50. Eyewitness testimony is in disagreement as to whether victim's car was initially found locked. Some say it was locked. But the car keys were "found" much later, at the morgue, in a front pocket that had already been searched at the scene. How then was Foster's car opened up?!
  51. Because of interference with prosecutor Rodriguez' inquiry into this case, he resigned in protest.
  52. Marsha Scott met with Foster, her friend of 20 years, in an unusual 1-2 hour closed-door meeting the day before he died. After Foster died, the _only_ thing Ms. Scott said she could remember discussing, from her long meeting, was that Foster had a good weekend. (!)
  53. The ABC News photo published showing Foster's hand with the gun is not consistent with eyewitness accounts of the scene.
  54. The victim's office, a secondary crime scene, was immediately cleared of evidence and documents by Clinton administration officials.
  55. The victim's personal effects including his pager were returned to the White House within 24 hours---before they could be analyzed by the police.
  56. Certain White House personnel, whose names are (for reasons unknown) not in the official record, were prepared to break into Park Police Officer Rolla's desk drawer to obtain a key to the evidence locker where Foster's possessions were being kept. (P. 91 of Hugh Sprunt's report)
  57. The neighborhood around the crime scene at Ft. Marcy Park was not canvassed by police, to see if anyone had heard a shot, until two years after the shooting took place.
  58. Several police officers in Arkansas have given sworn depositions that they were told of Foster's death at 6:00 PM EST, _before_ police and rescue workers arrived at Ft. Marcy Park. One of them immediately informed the wife of the then-governor of Arkansas.
  59. It is unclear when and where the victims car keys were actually found. One rescue worker says they were found on the way to the morgue. Another says they were found at the morgue.
  60. Police and rescue workers have been forbidden to discuss the case.
  61. No mention has ever been made as to whether there were powder burns inside of Foster's mouth and whether they were consistent with the bullet and spent shell found in the gun at the scene.


53 posted on 05/05/2003 11:11:30 AM PDT by green team 1999
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Today's UPI story on the U.S. Supreme Court taking my Foster FOIA case have several errors. Unfortunately WorldNetDaily and Newsmax have linked to the UPI story. Among the errors:

1. I do not represent Accuracy in Media. I represent myself as a plaintiff in this case. I represented AIM in a couple of their Foster FOIAs when I was a staff attorney at Judicial Watch in 1998-99. My personal FOIA case was filed before any of AIM's FOIA suits were filed. The UPI story adopts a government lie that I filed my suit or request after the AIM case was lost.

2. The Ninth Circuit did not order of the 10 body photos released. It ordered 4 of the 10 photos released.

3. The official death weapon was not a pistol, but a revolver.

4. The statement that "House and Senate committees all concluded that Foster committed suicide" is misleading. No House Committee so concluded. A sole House member, William Clinger issues his own report, which was very cursory and does not provide sufficient to substance to merit anybody's attention. The Senate Whitewater committee did not investigate the issue of how Foster was killed, but only the procedures used by the FBI and Park Police in investigating the death.

58 posted on 05/05/2003 4:11:47 PM PDT by AJFavish
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We have not forgotten; Gary Condit's rotten.
59 posted on 05/05/2003 4:12:29 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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Bravo Allan Favish!


61 posted on 05/05/2003 5:20:38 PM PDT by jodorowsky
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Looks like we need an Official Warren Commision Report again huh?
71 posted on 05/05/2003 7:18:33 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf))
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No matter how Vince Foster died, he didn't commit suicide at the location he was found at Fort Marcy Park.

By the way, who did hire Craig Livingstone anyway?

Livingstone was the Pittsburgh PA bouncer who wound up as the chief of White House security, even though there was no record of who authorized his hiring. Amazing isn't it?

Coincidentally, it was Craig Livingstone who "found" the keys to Foster's car in Foster's pocket at the morgue later that night, after records show that 2 different Park Police had searched his pockets at Fort Marcy Park and found nothing.

So the coverup continues into the 21st century. (Who hired Craig Livingstone?)

72 posted on 05/05/2003 7:20:48 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Vote Bush '04 - Extend "assault weapons" ban - Support Open Borders - S-517 US Kyoto)
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Oh. let's get some things straight. He received a call from Hilary on the left coast and she said she was coming to see him just hours before this happened. She didn't get there in time. Ken Starr didn't do the investigation, nor did the FBI or the CIA. It was done by the park police. He was shot with a smaller caliber weapon than he had in his hands. In his hands was a hand gun with far more recoil that he could have discharged and still had it in his hand. There was not near enough blood in the immediate area to indicate it happened there. But, the topper was that apparently Vince left his car keys in his desk drawer and pushed his car to the park to do the deed. Course the fact that his partner that worked with him during the Clinton election, and they were both owed 1000's of dollars apiece, was gunned down mafia execution style in Little Rock, and his house was searched and his computer was taken out of his home afterwards by CIA badge carriers is a bit of a tip also. This is no surprise. This is how the Clinton Mafia works. I have a friend that used to work for Clinton in the Arkansas State government that still recieves Christmas Cards where ever she goes. (And she has remarried and doesn't tell anyone who or where she is, but she is found)
80 posted on 05/05/2003 7:58:19 PM PDT by Redwood71
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Clinton's BIG DOMINO - The Rogues Gallery

Alamo Girl's Downside Legacy of The Clinton's

Beating, Threats, Killings, etc. of the Clinton Era

85 posted on 05/05/2003 8:56:05 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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bttt
88 posted on 05/06/2003 6:51:09 AM PDT by firewalk
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