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Love-struck Prince William eyes move to US: reports
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | May 5, 2003 | AFP

Posted on 05/05/2003 1:58:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Prince William, son of the late Princess Diana and heir to the British throne Prince Charles, wants to move to the United States after he finishes university in Scotland, a London newspaper said yesterday.

Meanwhile, newspapers also reported that William, 21 next month, has fallen in love with a female flatmate.

William "is determined to hold on to his privacy and believes living in the States gives him the best opportunity," a royal source told the Sunday Mirror tabloid.

A courtier said William, a student of art history at St Andrews University, wants to take either a post-graduate degree at a US college or a job with a US art auction house or gallery.

The courtier said New York was William's preferred choice of destination once he finishes university in Scotland in the summer of 2005.

"Various options are being discussed. It would be for a year or perhaps two... Like his mother, he wants his independence and is convinced the States will offer that to him," the courtier said.

The news came as British tabloids reported that William was dating fellow St Andrews' student Kate Middleton, 20.

Papers said William fell for the brunette after watching her at a university fashion show where she modelled a revealing lace dress.

"Wills thinks Kate is absolutely gorgeous," a friend of the pair was quoted as saying in The Mail on Sunday.

"They have a lot in common and they get on very well. They both love art and travelling and Kate has become a real confidante. They are certainly very close, but she's very discreet about William and he's very coy about her," the friend said.

Tabloids carried pictures of Kate and William being tactile while watching a university rugby match together on Saturday.

But Kate's father, company director Michael Middleton, said his daughter, who shares a flat with William and another male and female student, were "just good friends".

"We are very amused at the thought of being in-laws to Prince William, but I don't think it is going to happen," he told the Sunday Mirror.

Meanwhile, The People tabloid said William was planning a marathon drinking session with friends to celebrate his 21st birthday next month, after turning down the chance to have a big birthday concert in the grounds of Buckingham Palace.

AFP


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To: Motherbear
Pope Pius VI, in condemning the French Revolution and the execution of King Louis XVI, declared in 1793 that monarchy was "the best of all governments."
41 posted on 05/05/2003 8:23:36 AM PDT by royalcello
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We'll take William if they take both Klintoons.
43 posted on 05/05/2003 8:26:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: TonyRo76
I recognize no king other than Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

Well, that's your privilege, although, as Royalcello points out, that title implies that kings and lords are part of His grand order of things.

As your fellow Christian, I'd like to point out that Our Lord is the King of the Universe, not its president. Monarchy is the only form of government ever directly instituted by God.

As above, so below. The only models Our Lord ever used when speaking of the Divine order of the universe were kingdom and family. Our Lord reigns as King atop a Divine hierarchy that extends from Heaven to Earth, and we monarchists believe that government, like all things, should reflect that Divine hierarchy. Our Father heads a Divine family that extends from the Trinity down to us, His earthly children, and we monarchists believe that society, like all things, should reflect that Divine family.

Family and government are sacred institutions, and are best organized around the Authority of God, not left to the whims of the masses.

45 posted on 05/05/2003 8:28:40 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: TonyRo76
You got it..and they party with 'Lady' Victoria Harvey-what a bonus!


46 posted on 05/05/2003 8:29:48 AM PDT by ewing
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To: TonyRo76

47 posted on 05/05/2003 8:31:36 AM PDT by ewing
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To: 1Old Pro
BUMP!
48 posted on 05/05/2003 8:33:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 1Old Pro
Britain's next king:

The USA's would-be queen:

49 posted on 05/05/2003 8:34:49 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: royalcello
Well, obviously I don't agree that the question of monarchy was "dispelled" by the Declaration of Independence,

The question of whether or not a monarchy is a better system of government was answered by our founding fathers.

50 posted on 05/05/2003 8:35:34 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: TonyRo76
A king has a better motivation--he hopes to leave the kingdom in good shape for his successor, who is usually his son. A president, not bound by family ties, has no reason to care about his successor. Somehow I doubt you feel that Clinton governed "wisely and justly."

Read Hans-Hermann Hoppe's "Democracy--The God that Failed." He's not a monarchist, but argues persuasively that if one must have a state, monarchy is preferable to democracy.
51 posted on 05/05/2003 8:36:40 AM PDT by royalcello
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, we can say one thing for the kid: he's not nearly as ugly as his father.
52 posted on 05/05/2003 8:37:01 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Are they Gods with whom no one can disagree? As I said, they weren't all anti-royalists anyway; there was even an offer made to the brother of Frederick the Great to be King of America. Obviously nothing came of it, but this shows that the Founding Fathers were not unanimously opposed to monarchy.
53 posted on 05/05/2003 8:41:24 AM PDT by royalcello
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To: mountaineer
Question to Ms. Clinton: Will Will move to south Manhattan and settle in Chelsea, Chelsae?
54 posted on 05/05/2003 8:41:40 AM PDT by Consort
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To: mountaineer
The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.


55 posted on 05/05/2003 8:43:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hank Rearden
Too bad Chelsea can't say the same thing.
56 posted on 05/05/2003 8:44:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: royalcello
And which Founding Father decided after throwing the yoke of tyranny off, wanted another king?

They were called Founding Fathers because they were involved in "Founding" this system of governemt.
57 posted on 05/05/2003 9:00:20 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: royalcello
ARTHUR: Old woman!

DENNIS: Man!

ARTHUR: Man. Sorry. What knight live in that castle over there?

DENNIS: I'm thirty-seven.

ARTHUR: I-- what?

DENNIS: I'm thirty-seven. I'm not old.

ARTHUR: Well, I can't just call you 'Man'.

DENNIS: Well, you could say 'Dennis'.

ARTHUR: Well, I didn't know you were called 'Dennis'.

DENNIS: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?

ARTHUR: I did say 'sorry' about the 'old woman', but from the behind you

looked--

DENNIS: What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior!

ARTHUR: Well, I am king!

DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. And how d'you get that, eh? By exploiting

the workers! By 'anging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates

the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going

to be any progress with the--

WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh! How d'you do?

ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Who's

castle is that?

WOMAN: King of the who?

ARTHUR: The Britons.

WOMAN: Who are the Britons?

ARTHUR: Well, we all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king.

WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous

collective.

DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-

perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--

WOMAN: Oh, there you go, bringing class into it again.

DENNIS: That's what it's all about. If only people would hear of--

ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?

WOMAN: No one live there.

ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?

WOMAN: We don't have a lord.

ARTHUR: What?

DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in

turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

ARTHUR: Yes.

DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special

bi-weekly meeting--

ARTHUR: Yes, I see.

DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major--

ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh.

ARTHUR: I am your king!

WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.

ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.

WOMAN: Well, how did you become king then?

ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,...

[angels sing]

...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from

the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was

to carry Excalibur.

[singing stops]

That is why I am your king!

DENNIS: Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis

for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate

from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just

'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some

moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

ARTHUR: Shut up, will you. Shut up!

DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.

ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help!

I'm being repressed!

ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!

DENNIS: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh?

That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it,

didn't you?
58 posted on 05/05/2003 9:05:31 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Motherbear
Gee, I knew you were Catholic when I read that you were a monarchist. Which papal proclamation declared that monarchy is the best form of government? I can't remember.

Thanks for asking, Motherbear. It was Pourquoi Notre Voix, written by Pope Pius VI:

"The most Christian King, Louis XVI, was condemned to death by an impious conspiracy and this judgement was carried out. We shall recall to you in a few words the ordering and motives of this sentence. The National Convention had no right or authority to pronounce it. In fact, after having abolished the monarchy, the best of all governments, it had transferred all the public power to the people -- the people which, guided neither by reason nor by counsels, forms just ideas on no point whatsoever; assesses few things in accord ance with the truth and evaluates a great many according to mere opinion, which is ever fickle, and ever easy to deceive and to lead into every excess, ungrateful, arrogant, and cruel ..."
-- Pius VI, allocution of 17 July 1793, Pourquoi Notre Voix
Readers should note that His Holiness was echoing the sentiments of St. Thomas Aquinas, who wrote:
"[Inasmuch as]the welfare and safety of a multitude formed into a society lies in the preservation of its unity, which is called peace” and “it is manifest that what is itself one can more efficaciously bring about unity than several... therefore the rule of one man is more useful than the rule of many. Furthermore it is evident that several persons could by no means preserve the stability of the community if they totally disagreed... So one man rules better than several who come near to being one. Again, whatever is in accord with nature is best, for in all things nature does what is best. Now, every natural governance is governance by one. In the multitude of bodily members there is one which is the principal mover, namely, the heart; and among the powers of the soul one power presides as chief, namely, the reason. Among bees there is one king [queen] bee and in the whole universe there is one God, Maker and Ruler of all things. And there is a reason for this. Every multitude is derived from unity. Wherefore, if artificial things are an imitation of natural things and a work of art is better according as it attains a closer likeness to what is in nature, it follows that it is best for a human multitude to be ruled by one person.”
-- St. Thomas Aquinas, "On Kingship to the King of Cyprus", Pontifical Institute of Medieval Studies, Toronto, Canada, 1949, Chs. II ff. passim.
And so we see that monarchy is the most authentically Catholic form of government.
59 posted on 05/05/2003 9:12:09 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: TonyRo76
What better motivation has a President to govern wisely and justly, than knowing that he will soon rejoin the masses of ordinary commoners over whom he has temporary stewardship?

Because he doesn't rejoin the masses of ordinary commoners. Please refer to "Clinton, William J".

60 posted on 05/05/2003 9:14:59 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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