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To: sinkspur; Pyro7480
I'm reminded of the old days, before there were alternative news sources, when only God hating liberals ran the press.

The entire speach is not posted above, just as the letter that was sent to the President was never out for publication and the sex scandal in the church is constantly in the headlines printing names of priests which have been aquitted.

The Pope, is attacked, because he sees materialism as a danger to man's soul, he was advising the President about his moral duty to be sure that war is the only answer, and because he is not quoted properly in a God-hating press regarding the evil deeds of a small percentage of ex-clergy.

Materialism is an evil that does pervade our society, and the Pope has a duty to warn and remind us about it. He is concerned, and rightly so, with our move toward replacing the True-God with the "Almighty Dollar".

The Pope sent the President a PRIVATE letter, at least I have not seen it. I do know that the catechism of the Church says that a leader must be absolutely sure that war is a last resort, that it is morally justified and done in such a way that innocents are protected. All of which GWB assures us was the case.(I believe the President was justified.)

The general press never mentions that the sexual scandal in the Catholic Church involves less than 1 tenth of a percent of the clergy, and that represents a lower percentage of sexual preditors than in the general population. That's not to say that the ministers involved should not be punished under the law, and that the Pope should perhaps be more vocal about it (Maybe he is, but the God-Hating liberal press won't print it).

In this world of political correctness, there is only one thing that's still open to true un-constrained hateful bashing, The Roman Catholic Church. Even many of my fellow christians of other denominations have a tendancy to do so.
31 posted on 05/03/2003 10:12:04 AM PDT by uncbuck ("Lady, I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player." -- John Kruk)
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To: uncbuck
I'm reminded of the old days, before there were alternative news sources, when only God hating liberals ran the press.

In this world of political correctness, there is only one thing that's still open to true un-constrained hateful bashing, The Roman Catholic Church. Even many of my fellow christians of other denominations have a tendancy to do so.

AMEN to that! Everything you said in that post is absolutely right.

34 posted on 05/03/2003 10:19:48 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: uncbuck
The Pope, is attacked, because he sees materialism as a danger to man's soul, he was advising the President about his moral duty to be sure that war is the only answer, and because he is not quoted properly in a God-hating press regarding the evil deeds of a small percentage of ex-clergy.

Actually, the Pope has never had one good word to say about capitalism except when he spanks free market economies for not doing more for the poor, he has not once since the end of the Iraq war expressed gratitude for the liberation of 24 million people from the yoke of tyranny, and the Holy Father knew for 20 years that priests were molesting children here in the United States.

I'm Catholic also, and I admire the Pope, but he is not infallible in his earthly judgments.

45 posted on 05/03/2003 12:05:47 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: uncbuck
Materialism is an evil that does pervade our society, and the Pope has a duty to warn and remind us about it.

Okay but instead this Pope decided to warn us about something called "globalization", and said it should be "regulated".

Not the same thing.

Unless and until someone adequately defines "globalization". Frankly I don't know what the heck it is supposed to mean.

97 posted on 06/09/2003 10:58:55 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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