[Dimensio]

Trying to explain the concept of "light and dark" to creatures without yes does not mean light and dark do not exist.

True, but to have the concept requires that someone has a frame of reference. Are you saying that ID proponents have a frame of refernece, perhaps through some extra sensory perception, to have discerned between 'designed universe' and 'not designed universe' and that any lack of comprehension is simply the result of physiological limitations amongst a certain percentage of the population?

[Not Insane]

"True, but to have the concept requires that someone has a frame of reference. Are you saying that ID proponents have a frame of refernece, perhaps through some extra sensory perception, to have discerned between 'designed universe' and 'not designed universe' and that any lack of comprehension is simply the result of physiological limitations amongst a certain percentage of the population?"

No, I am saying they are like the creatures without eyes who BELIEVE the creature with eyes that explains, in an obviously limited way, the concept of light and dark.

Others choose to simply think all this light and dark stuff is baloney since it cannot be proved.

Of course, one side IS right. The idea of light and dark either exists or it doesn't.