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To: Dimensio
"True, but to have the concept requires that someone has a frame of reference. Are you saying that ID proponents have a frame of refernece, perhaps through some extra sensory perception, to have discerned between 'designed universe' and 'not designed universe' and that any lack of comprehension is simply the result of physiological limitations amongst a certain percentage of the population?"

No, I am saying they are like the creatures without eyes who BELIEVE the creature with eyes that explains, in an obviously limited way, the concept of light and dark.

Others choose to simply think all this light and dark stuff is baloney since it cannot be proved.

Of course, one side IS right. The idea of light and dark either exists or it doesn't.
112 posted on 05/02/2003 12:35:56 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Not Insane
No, I am saying they are like the creatures without eyes who BELIEVE the creature with eyes that explains, in an obviously limited way, the concept of light and dark. Others choose to simply think all this light and dark stuff is baloney since it cannot be proved.

Indeed... a blind man can only have the idea of a rainbow explained to him... refraction of light, etc. For him, there is no sensory input from a rainbow, and he has no way to test its existence. Thus, he has the option of trusting those who describe it to him, or dismissing it as so much superstitious nonsense. According to many on here, it would be unscientific for the blind man to even consider the existence of color, since it is unfalsifiable to him.

230 posted on 05/02/2003 2:00:57 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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