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To: Ichneumon
It is not convincing because laws of nature have to be violated. So you say... Which ones?

A FEW of the MATERIALIST'S MIRACLES

NATURAL PROCESS THAT EXPLAINS THE MIRACLE

Matter has always existed/ matter is eternal.


Matter existed before (!) time began. Matter takes up space, space is impossible w/o time.


All the matter was compressed into the size of a point (some say "infinitely small").


The point exploded (The universe created itself).


Time began.


The universe was 100 trillion degrees celsius (some say "infinitely high").


Only quarks and photons existed which gave rise to hydrogen.


Hydrogen gave rise to all the other elements.


Some particles accelerated beyond the speed of light. (requires infinite energy)


The distribution of matter is not smooth but the distrubution of MBR is smooth.

NASA just decided that the MBR is not smooth.

The clumping of distant quasars appears to put us in the center of the universe.


Particles departing from each other at the speed of light formed planets and stars


Rain on rocks gave rise to life (spontaneous generation)


Rocks gave rise to intelligence.


1-celled structures invented their own genetic info.


Frogs gave rise to princes.


Modern spores are found in precambrian shale.


Some fossil men had 12% larger brains than modern man (we are devolving?)


A pig's tooth evolved into a village with the help of "science."

The blunder was admitted but not the process that led to it (Lucy & pelvic saw, for example).


500 posted on 05/04/2003 5:01:14 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
Your list is such a mish-mash of stupidities (e.g. "Rocks gave rise to intelligence") gross misrepresentations of what science actually says (e.g. "Particles departing from each other at the speed of light formed planets and stars") and falsehoods ("Modern spores are found in precambrian shale" -- Burdick's a moron) that I sincerely *hope* you're trolling.

If you're not, then there's really no point in trying to correct all of your incredible misunderstandings -- it would be a full-time job.

But neither option inspires confidence.

In any case, your failure to respond to 3 of the requests to support your 4 declarations, your failure to choose only your *best* single example in response for each of the 4 questions, and the utterly laughable nature of your attempted response, I'm afraid that we're going to have to give you a failing grade on the matter I mentioned in the post to which you are responding:

Let's see if you've got anything better than empty accusations. Your reputation is riding on the quality of your responses.
The "quality" of your response is, in a word, pitiful, and readers will thus draw their own conclusions about your reputation.

I further wrote:

That'll not only save everyone (including you) a lot of time, it'll let us dismiss you once and for all if your "best" examples are shown to be misfires.
Consider yourself duly dismissed once and for all as a lightweight.
600 posted on 05/05/2003 12:35:01 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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