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To: Dimensio
So? This doesn't prove that there is an intelligent force at work in cancer, this just means that human intelligence and capability is limited.

My point is that humans have the ability to apply intelligence to a problem and with years of intensive research and experimentation continue to fail with cancer. For some reason evolutionists believe that mother nature can resolve these anomalies with time. Time and mother nature have no intelligence!

Show me where mother nature, outside of life, has created a structure that provides a specific function that combats the chaos of the universe.

The Biblical explanation of origins and the creation of the universe makes perfect sense. Our earth has a multitude of destructive systems that only when taken in their totality could create the perfect balance for a sustainable environment that supports life.

There is no evidence that even approaches explaining how nature could carefully orchestrate destructive systems that can together create the balance that is needed to sustain life.

Try looking into the degrees and percentages of the systems that are required to maintain a life supporting environment. Then consider, in our short life spans, how the comet Shumaker Levy 9 impacted Jupiter, a planet within our small solar system, of which a similar impact on earth would have ended all life.

Evolution stands upon very shaky ground when you consider the present observable evidence. Small changes and adaptations within a species, YES, transitional's taking billions of years to come to fruition, NO!

The Bible's got this one right folks.

266 posted on 05/02/2003 10:37:53 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: bondserv
My point is that humans have the ability to apply intelligence to a problem and with years of intensive research and experimentation continue to fail with cancer

Yes, because humans haven't yet figured out a means of developing a technology that can effectively and safely destroy cancer 100% of the time. That doesn't prove anything with respect to intelligent design.

For some reason evolutionists believe that mother nature can resolve these anomalies with time.

What, cancer? I've never heard anyone make such a silly claim. I think that you're introducing irrelevant information into your argument.

Time and mother nature have no intelligence!

The modifier 'mother' implies something that isn't there, so I prefer to call it 'nature', but you are right in that time and nature have no intelligence (nature itself has no inherent overall intelligence even if certain components within are intelligent). Again, your point?

Show me where mother nature, outside of life, has created a structure that provides a specific function that combats the chaos of the universe.

This question really doesn't have any meaning. Planets managed to 'organize' themselves into rather stable orbits around stars, if that works, but I really don't know what it is that you're asking.

The Biblical explanation of origins and the creation of the universe makes perfect sense.

Perfect sense with respect to what? Why specifically the Biblical account? Why not the account of some other religion?

Our earth has a multitude of destructive systems that only when taken in their totality could create the perfect balance for a sustainable environment that supports life.

Please be specific.

There is no evidence that even approaches explaining how nature could carefully orchestrate destructive systems that can together create the balance that is needed to sustain life.

You're making the faulty assumption that nature 'created' this planet specifically to sustain life. More likely, life arose on this planet because it was able to come about and thrive on this planet.

Try looking into the degrees and percentages of the systems that are required to maintain a life supporting environment.

I have. I've also heard bizarre false assertions regarding these variables such as claims that the if the earth were just a little closer to the sun that we would all "burn" and that if it were just a little farther that we would all "freeze". Once again, you're claiming that you don't see how it is possible for it to have happened without divine intervention and assuming divine intervention.

There is no evidence that even approaches explaining how nature could carefully orchestrate destructive systems that can together create the balance that is needed to sustain life.

And your point is what, that some divine entity has prevented coments from slamming into Earth?

Evolution stands upon very shaky ground when you consider the present observable evidence.

Only if you're afraid of research and you cling to bogus probability studies.

The Bible's got this one right folks.

Once again, even if you utterly disproved evolution, how would this prove the Bible correct?
268 posted on 05/03/2003 1:58:37 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: bondserv

My point is that humans have the ability to apply intelligence to a problem and with years of intensive research and experimentation continue to fail with cancer. For some reason evolutionists believe that mother nature can resolve these anomalies with time. Time and mother nature have no intelligence!

Heh, Mother Nature begs to differ with you!

Lucky discovery uncovers cancer-proof mouse

A cancer-proof mouse, which can survive being injected with any number of cancer cells, has been discovered by US scientists. The discovery of the resistant mouse could pave the way for future gene or drug therapies if the mechanism by which it fights cancer can be understood

Researchers at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina have now bred a colony of 700 cancer-proof mice from the resistant male they stumbled across while doing other experiments. ...

(Don't worry - maybe this astoundingly beneficial spontaneous mutation represents a "loss of information", whatever that's supposed to mean! :-)
270 posted on 05/03/2003 2:31:35 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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