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High Court Weighs Minority Voting Rights
Associated Press ^ | Apr. 29, 2003 | GINA HOLLAND

Posted on 04/29/2003 2:56:28 PM PDT by Dubya

WASHINGTON -The Supreme Court grappled Tuesday with the issues of politics, race and elections in a case that will decide what states must do to protect minority voting rights.

The justices are considering how states can redraw election districts that previously had dense minority populations without violating a federal voting law. States and local governments must draw boundaries every 10 years if needed to reflect population changes

The high court's decision, expected before July, will affect states that are subject to the 1965 Voting Rights Act because of past discrimination.

Georgia's attorney urged the court to permit some flexibility in line drawing.

"Politics should be open and integrated," said David Walbert, pointing to what he called progress in that state that "no one would have dreamed of in 1965."

Many black leaders supported a contested plan to reduce the number of minority voters in several heavily black Senate districts, because shifting some minority voters to neighboring districts would help Democrats beat Republicans.

A lower court rejected those boundaries under the Voting Rights Act. Congress must decide in 2007 whether to renew part of the law which justices are interpreting in this case.

"Maybe if we make it bad enough, they'll think about repealing it," Justice Antonin Scalia said to laughter in the court.

The case came before the court as the state was embroiled in a dispute over displaying a Confederate symbol on its flag. Voters last year defeated the Democratic governor who orchestrated a change in the 1956 state flag to reduce the size of a Confederate emblem hat had dominated the old design.

Gov. Sonny Perdue, who became the state's first GOP governor in 130 years in part because he promised a vote on the flag, had tried to stop justices from hearing the redistricting case.

The politics of the case are unusual. The Bush administration, along with Perdue, contend that the Democratic-controlled Legislature went too far in reducing minority voting strength in those heavily black districts. The Voting Rights Act discourages dilution of minority voting strength.

Malcolm Stewart, arguing for the Bush administration, said that the state could not dramatically alter districts, making it tougher for minority candidates to win. He said the federal government objected to Georgia's plan because of a history of racial polarization in several districts.

Several justices commented on the politics involved. Scalia said that it made sense that blacks would want to spread around minority voters to avoid a "lilly white district ... so they won't get some redneck discriminatory" representative.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy questioned what a state was to do if it were "frozen" with districts with large black populations.

Redistricting often leads to court fights. Georgia's line-drawing also was disputed after the 1990 census in a case that prompted a 1995 Supreme Court ruling that race cannot be the predominant factor in the drawing of district lines.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg inquired about an earlier court fight between the new Georgia governor, Perdue, and state Attorney General Thurbert Baker, a black Democrat. Perdue sued and lost in an effort to get Baker to drop his efforts to restore the contested districting plan. Baker is appealing the federal district court ruling that rejected the contested plan.

The case is Georgia v. Ashcroft, 02-182.

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To: Kuksool
Here is the solution. Very simple and NO gerrymandering.

Make all the congressional seats in a given state AT - LARGE. No boundaries (and therefore no gerrymandering).
21 posted on 04/30/2003 9:47:03 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Get Well Soon Dix !!!)
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To: PetroniDE
Make all the congressional seats in a given state AT - LARGE. No boundaries (and therefore no gerrymandering).

Gee, and then all representatives in NY would be the choice of the people of NYC.

22 posted on 04/30/2003 11:13:41 AM PDT by lepton
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To: mhking
pinging & marking for later read.
23 posted on 04/30/2003 11:15:36 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: lepton
Oh shoot - forgot about that.

OK - I give up. Give New York back to the British. If they don't want it, give it to the French. If they don't want it, then we invade France and make them take it (they get the Clinton's as a bonus).
24 posted on 04/30/2003 11:23:15 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Get Well Soon Dix !!!)
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To: PetroniDE
I like that idea.
25 posted on 04/30/2003 11:40:09 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Dubya
Bad title. It should read "block voting rights" instead of voting rights. I didn't know the constitution discussed block voting rights.
26 posted on 04/30/2003 11:57:11 AM PDT by ampat
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To: AuH2ORepublican
To play Devil's advocate, why should state legislators be forced to only take geography, and not demographics, into account when drawing districts?

The idea is not so much that geography is more important than demographics, but rather that it's less-easily manipulated.

Suppose that there are to be ten districts in a state which is 60% Republican, but I'm an evil nasty Democrat and I get to draw them.

If I am not bound by geography, I can make seven districts each 57% Democrat and 43% Republica, and the remaining three districts 0%% Democrat and 100% Republican. Net result: I have a veto-proof majority in the state legislature even though the Republicans have a substantial majority of the population.

27 posted on 04/30/2003 3:47:59 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: supercat
Actually, even an evil Democrat couldn't gerrymander a 60% GOP state into 7 RAT districts and 3 Republican districts, since in the real world there are no 100% Republican areas (although there are many 90% Democrat areas that have been made into minority-majority districts, which is one of the reasons why the GOP took the House in 1994 and kept it since). A 60% GOP state could be gerrymandered anywhere from 9 Republicans and 1 Democrat (if GOP strength is pretty evenly spread out and the GOP controlled the process) to 5 RATs and 5 Pubbies (if the RATs control it). But if we drew the districts randomly, it would not necessarily result in 6 Republicans and 4 Democrats--it may well be 8 Republicans and 2 Democrats. And in fact, if we have a state split 50-50, I propose that it would be fairer to create X number of Dem districts and GOP districts, since if every district was 50-50 it would result in 10 Republicans elected on a good year and 10 Democrats elected on a bad year. Taking a population's voting record into account when drawing districts may actually be fairer than doing it blindly.

But as I wrote in post #20, a system of proportional representation would ameliorate some of the evils of gerrymandering while preserving the right of like-minded communities to be kept together.
28 posted on 04/30/2003 4:33:09 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Actually, even an evil Democrat couldn't gerrymander a 60% GOP state into 7 RAT districts and 3 Republican districts, since in the real world there are no 100% Republican areas (although there are many 90% Democrat areas that have been made into minority-majority districts, which is one of the reasons why the GOP took the House in 1994 and kept it since).

All depends how accurate my information is, and how finely I decide to draw the districts [is there anything that requires different apartments within a building to fall in one district? I don't think so!]

29 posted on 04/30/2003 4:44:59 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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