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We don't have a tyrannical government today. That's just hyperbole on your part. Our Federal, State, and local governments, however, have too much power and too much access into our private lives.

But your point that the Second Amendment was designed to secure the individual right to bear arms, and if necessary, take on an oppresive government, is right on the money. I have been flamed more than one time when I have stated that as a law-abiding U.S. citizen, I should have the opportunity to be armed with firearms similar to the military.

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." (Too long for a tagline!)

"We don't have a tyrannical government today. That's just hyperbole on your part."

You're right, we don't. But... here's the thing. The concept that armed civilians have the ability to overthrow such a government is a shibboleth.

Consider this: How many times has someone, or a group, armed with whatever weapons, successfully held off even a police SWAT team and gotten away? The answer is Zero.

I remember another poster, a long time ago, talking about this well-armed militia camp, as if it were impregnable. That was the final stand, in his mind. One A-10, with a couple of Hellfire missiles would put an end to that fantasy.

We saw what happened in Iraq, with our fine military just walking over an entire Iraqi army. Do the RKBA folks _really_ believe they could do better? If so, they are deceived.

We are long past the point where an armed populace is going to overthrow any government in the USA. It ain't gonna happen. Not now. Not ever.

But...we have a cool political system. The zealots can convince the population that their cause is just and elect people, from the school board level to the national level, who agree with them. We have elections every two years, for pete's sake. That's where our power is, not behind a toy "assault rifle." Sorry about the "toy" designation, but that's just what it is.

This battle is being fought in the wrong place. All these folks who think their little semi-autos are going to hold off even the local cops are just kidding themselves.

Get political! Militias and the like are a joke when it comes to access to power in the USA. The best civilian firearms are laughable, even compared to the firepower a small town SWAT team can bring to the battle. Never mind the military, which has another way to SWAT folks who want to fight.

It's all nonsense. The only route is through our fine, flexible system. Go convince people. Don't threaten them. "From my cold, dead hands," is a challenge, not an argument. If you want to die, then be my guest. Try to beat the local SWAT team. If you want to make a change, you'll do a lot better alive.

We don't have a tyrannical government today.

I would have to disagree.

Once the government has sherked it's commitment to the people and the Constitution, then it has become a Tyranical Government. We don't have a tyrant king, but the elective legislature has become one big tyrant supressing the people of the United States. I don't care what the 16th Admendment says it's wrong! A progressive income tax (which is listed as a tool for communism on the Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx) supresses the will of the people and the legislation back in 1912 knew this. When the Federal Reserve (not a government agency) started handing money to the government like candy, the debt grew, the government didn't know how to pay it back, so the income tax was imposed on the people (which used to be only on corporations and businesses) to pay the debt back. The Uncontrolled spending still exists as the debt gets bigger, more taxes are going to be taken.

There is more; When was it Constitutional to start the Public School, The welfare and the Social Security? It isn't. You see, the Government is running rampant with out any regard to the Constitution, it has in fact beome Tyranical, you must accept it or face jail time and monetary fines, or posession of your goods!