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Constitution of the U.S. | Amendment I (Ratified Dec. 15, 1791)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...

last time i checked, a "law" means that something will be enforced by the legal authorities of the land; that if disobeyed, there are real consequences, i.e. a fine or imprisonment (or in some lands, severe corporal punishment).

"exacting an unconstitutional toll on the consciences of religious objectors" doesn't sound like any of the above. afterall, what is conscience? and is it the same for all? is it tangible? if not, are we moving towards new laws addressing the metaphysical?

there are no reports of VMI (Founded in 1839) punishing any cadets for staying silent though prayer. fact: it is voluntary. without evidence of enforcement (or any consequences) administered by the college, i don't see how there's a real case to be made.

freedom of speech means hearing things that you may not agree with. (we've seen this in action recently, with protesters taking to the streets) in America, we all have the "right" to our opinions. and others have the right to dislike us for them. but nowhere is prayer compelled by Congressional law. following a tradition is not legal compliance. it's choice. and isn't that what the 1st Amendment clearly stipulates?

i pray the ACLU and their liberal sympathizers their souls to keep....

1 posted on 04/29/2003 12:25:26 PM PDT by SanFranRepublican
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To: SanFranRepublican
How can the courts stop people from praying? The answer is, they CAN'T. THEY CANNOT STOP US FROM PRAYING. If they throw us in jail for praying, then so be it. Force the issue in court.
2 posted on 04/29/2003 12:27:17 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: SanFranRepublican
Congress shall make no law...

Since when did Congress start establishing rules at VMI? At the time the Constitution was ratified, several state legislatures had established religions. Seems to me if anything the court is interfering with the Constitution by "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion at VMI.

3 posted on 04/29/2003 12:31:20 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: SanFranRepublican
That school never had a problem until the courts forced it to admit women. Now it's ruined.
4 posted on 04/29/2003 12:32:11 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: SanFranRepublican
General Jackson would be most displeased.
5 posted on 04/29/2003 12:36:15 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Nasty Little Cliqueâ„¢)
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To: SanFranRepublican
And in comes the latest demand for God to get out of this country. Let another 9/11 happen, though, and once more everyone one will be screaming, "Where's God?" Well DOH. Right where you asked Him to be: Not meddling in the affairs of the USA.

So sad.

MM

6 posted on 04/29/2003 12:36:51 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: SanFranRepublican
bttt
21 posted on 04/29/2003 1:33:27 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: SanFranRepublican
SCR*W THE COURTS!
22 posted on 04/29/2003 2:02:56 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: SanFranRepublican
bump to your comment!
23 posted on 04/29/2003 2:32:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: SanFranRepublican
http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/A0019416.html

A spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), while claiming the lawsuit was not meant to remove religion from the VMI campus, said school-sanctioned prayer is "disruptive to the school's education process."

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) sued last May after two students complained
28 posted on 04/29/2003 7:15:31 PM PDT by honway
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To: SanFranRepublican
freedom of speech means hearing things that you may not agree with.

At the risk of being accused of praying in public, I would like to say a big, hearty Amen to your comment.

This business of silencing people because someone else may be offended is just plain wrong; it is against the spirit of the constitution and of liberty.

33 posted on 04/29/2003 8:18:01 PM PDT by Rocky
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