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To: Last Visible Dog
Cosmology - The science of the world or universe; or a treatise relating to the structure and parts of the system of creation, the elements of bodies, the modifications of material things, the laws of motion, and the order and course of nature. (Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary)

Now unless you can prove biological evolution has nothing to do with "the order and course of nature" (which is absurd) - biological evolution does have something to do with cosmology.

Oh boy, the pick-your-definition game! I just love that one. Ok, here's *my* dictionary's definition:

Cosmology: a branch of astronomy that deals with the origin, structure, and space-time relationships of the universe; also : a theory dealing with these matters (Merriam-Webster)
Now unless you can prove biological evolution has something to do with "space-time relationships of the universe" (which is absurd) - biological evolution *doesn't* have something to do with cosmology.

So much for the definition game... Most amateur philosophers outgrow that one pretty fast, I see that you haven't yet.

You're right - that was amusing.

Just not in quite the way you intended.

Proving a know-it-all is wrong is fun.

You've got a lot to learn about the nature of "proof", son. And it's a more rigorous thing than just picking the broadest definition you can get your hands on in order to stretch a word beyond any useful meaning (i.e., by your definition and argument, *car repair* is related to cosmology). When a word is expanded that far, any "connection" you've claimed to have demonstrated is a Pyrrhic victory, at most.

Is this a relative of yours?

"There's glory for you!"

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' "

"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,' " Alice objected.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is, " said Alice, "whether you *can* make words mean so many different things."

-- From Through The Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll


927 posted on 05/16/2003 12:12:32 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
The BIG guns are out today.

LVD does not have a snowballs chance in hell now.

I love watching this....
932 posted on 05/16/2003 12:14:56 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: Ichneumon
Cosmology: a branch of astronomy that deals with the origin, structure, and space-time relationships of the universe; also : a theory dealing with these matters (Merriam-Webster)

I think that means the word has more than one meaning - therefore your comment that evolution has nothing to do with cosmology is false (all that was needed is one definition - not all of them)

938 posted on 05/16/2003 12:27:06 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Ichneumon
Probably one of the best logic texts available, and quite readable to boot.
971 posted on 05/16/2003 1:50:43 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Ichneumon
Now unless you can prove biological evolution has something to do with "space-time relationships of the universe" (which is absurd) - biological evolution *doesn't* have something to do with cosmology.

The existence of ONE definition that supports my statement supports my position and disproves your silly absolute statement - I only need one definition to prove my statement - the only way your statement is true is if ALL definitions support it (which is clearly not the case) - maybe that will teach you not to make absolute statements

1,033 posted on 05/17/2003 10:00:37 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Ichneumon
HINT: the word and concept of evolution existed before Darwinism

But it meant something different, then, now didn't it? Or maybe you aren't aware of this.

This is a great example of Orthodox Darwinism. Not only is this clown a know-it-all – he actually believes that Lord God Darwin changed the very meaning of the word “evolution” - like I said, Orthodox Darwinism is more dogma than science.

“In the beginning there was Darwin and his book was the truth (praise be to Darwin) – all hail Lord God Darwin

1,034 posted on 05/17/2003 10:08:26 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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