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Ah, no answer. The passion for undying debate. No passion for reality, down to earth solutions.

You are a fraud, figure it out.

You choose to have "criteria" you never use. You want to prove a theory...(first clue, it is a theory). You chose to ignore better and easier criteria.

And when confronted with the ideas, you stick your head in the sand.

Have fun with creationism, or evolution. Choose your doctor on better criteria (easily available) or you are an IDIOT!

DK

Was that plain?

You sound like FC, what the hell are you talking about?

Again, time for dinner, be back later, for those of you who do not know what BBL means.

You choose to have "criteria" you never use. You want to prove a theory...(first clue, it is a theory). You chose to ignore better and easier criteria.

Please refer to my post 634 before using the "it's only a theory drivel."

"Easier," I'll buy. "Better?" Not for a millisecond. "Goddidit" is admittedly far easier than 140 years of legit scientific research, backed up by voluminous studies, peer reviewed journals, and countless documentation. Why bother learning anything? "Goddidit!" (Except in the case of those damned fossils... "Satandidat!") So we agree... your childish fantasy world of "Zap, Goddidit" is indeed far easier than reality. Ahem.

And when confronted with the ideas, you stick your head in the sand.

Maybe I missed that part. I have yet to actually see a creationist (aka ID proponent) put forth a single new idea. Please do so and I'll wipe the sand from my hair and review what you've got.

In the meantime, I'll be preparing for Halley's Comet.

OK Dark night.

Because I feel like being nice to you tonight, I will try and explain to you what happened.

OK, let's say that we are in a creationism debate, OK?

Now, you start off telling someone why you believe in creationism, OK?

Then I come in with this.

me: creationism is crap

Then you respond: why do you think creationism is crap? give me a reason.

Me: Because I do, PROVE to me that creationism is true.

You: I believe in creationism, why do you NOT believe in creationism, what about creationism makes it crap for you?

me: None of your business, I asked you a question? Prove to me creationism is true.

You: Why should I prove to you, when you have not answered my question about why creationism is crap?

me: Now your evading, you don't know ANYTHING about creationsim, your just afraid to look like a fool in front of your creationist buddies, now answer my question, prove to me that creationsim is true.

you: What the ehll are you talking about, I asked you why you did not believe in creationism, now answer my first question and we will talk.

me: See you're afraid to answer the question, now prove that creationism is true.

You: What do you believe that seems so much better then creationism.

me: My beliefs are NONE of your business, now come on coward, prove to me creationism is true.

Of course in there I will toss some out of context quote, and call you names, and be an all around pain in the ass, BUT, A: I will NEVER answer your original question of why, B: I will continue to demand that YOU prove your viewpoint without telling you mine, and C: I will continue to tell you that your theory is crap, and not give you a clue of why I think that.

Now, is that debate?

Or is that the sign of troll?

Come on and be honest here.

Oh, and when you finally tell me to shove off, because you realize that I am indeed a troll, I will harass you with nasty personal messages over the private mail system.

And when confronted with the ideas, you stick your head in the sand.

You have done a very good job of summing up Aric2000's MO.

He is an intellectually dishonest disrupter.

We obviously misunderstand each other for some reason.

Let me restate for you.

A doctor that tells me that evolution as a scientific theory is ridiculous is not a doctor that I will go to.

Why? Because then he believes that germs don't change, can't become immune to drugs, can't become some nastier bug, etc etc.

A doctor who understands the principle of evolution, and admits that it is indeed a valid scientific theory, and yet believes in creationism. GREAT, I'll see him whenever I am sick.

A doctor that is a christian, but does not take creationism literally, and believes in not only the validity of evolution, but uses it in his practice, I will absolutely go and see him.

Now, I will also address another point that the rest of you seemed to be clueless about, those that were not, I don't believe I have to point you out by name, you know who you are.

Now, let's start again.

You are having a debate, you are debating the flood with another poster.

Then I come in and let you have it with both barrels.

I think your flood is crap.

You: why do you think the flood is crap?

me: I just do, so you prove to me that the flood happened.

You: no, tell me what makes you think that the flood is crap?

me: Because creationism is a crock, it's impossible.

you: but we were talking about the flood?

me: So am I, but without creationism, the flood could not have occurred.

you: excuse me, but we were discussing the flood, you wanna talk about creationism.

me: no, I am talking about the flood.

you: no your not, your talking about creation, they are 2 different things.

me: The flood is crap, now prove to me that the flood happened.

you: but we were discussing the flood, and you are talking about creationism.

me: what are you talking about, can;t you answer the question, you don't know anything about the flood do you?

and of course it goes on and on and on.....

Of course by now you would not only be confused, but probably a bit frustrated and pissed off.

Then this detractor troll, will begin to call you names as well, accuse you of all sorts of interesting things.

Then, when you finally blow me off, I will write you nasty e-mails, then after you left, anyone that disagreed with me, I would say that they are you under another nick.

Now, shall we go into the real world now and go over what actually happened?

I and others were discussing BIOLOGICAL evolution, these 2 disruptor/Trolls came in discussing COSMOLOGICAL evolution, 2 different things.

But, like the flood and creationism, they are part of a whole, but are really separate chapters, because if someone is talking one thing, and they come in discussing another, claiming that they are actually discussing the same thing, when they KNOW for a fact that they are not.

Then what are these 2 people discussing creation, when you are discussing the flood?

TROLLS and DETRACTORS.

Do you follow our chain of thought now?

Have I put it in a way that everyone can understand?

I hope so, because I am not going to go over it again.