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To: Dimensio
While I lack belief in the existence of any gods, I cannot authoritatively say that absolutely no gods exist, so I cannot authoritatively say that the first life forms were not created by some god.

Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons. Dini seems to have granted himself that authority.

59 posted on 04/29/2003 1:06:41 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons. Dini seems to have granted himself that authority.

We can never exclude the possibility that a god created all life in the recent past but made it so that it looks as if it evolved over several million years. And of course he also planted all those fossils in the ground to lead us astray...

70 posted on 04/29/2003 1:19:04 PM PDT by BMCDA (Atheists do not so much reject God as bad arguments in His favor)
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To: Dataman
Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons.

While I lack the credentials to make any statements regarding the origin of the species (My field is computer science), I do not see how that is "the same reason" as any statement regarding any gods.
93 posted on 04/29/2003 1:56:02 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dataman
Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons. Dini seems to have granted himself that authority.

Oh, puh-leaze.

That's a mighty big straw man you've got there:

As you well know from the countless prior threads on this topic -- but are desperately trying to pretend you don't -- is that insisting that science students accept current scientific views in order to get a letter of recommendation attesting to their fitness to practice science is in no way an exercise in "dogma" or declaring oneself to have "authoritative" answers. It is, quite simply, the proper way to accredit someone (or not) for the field they profess an interest in.

And no amount of your scornful one-liners (most of which do not even address the point being made, except to emptily reject it) will change that.

If a student wants a science degree, they're going to have to accept the fundamentals of science. If they want to reject the basic foundations, they need to find another career.

Similarly, divinity schools are well within their rights and the bounds of common sense to reject giving letters of recommendation to atheists who openly reject what the school was formed to teach.

Get over it, and stop making mountains out of molehills, or pretending that you don't grasp what has already been explained to you countless times. If you're playing dumb, you're not helping your case any. And if you're not playing at it, go find something more your level to discuss and stop wasting our time.

137 posted on 04/29/2003 8:55:37 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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