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The Dini-gration of Darwinism
AgapePress ^ | April 29, 2003 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 04/29/2003 10:43:39 AM PDT by Remedy

Texas Tech University biology professor Michael Dini recently came under fire for refusing to write letters of recommendation for students unable to "truthfully and forthrightly affirm a scientific answer" to the following question: "How do you think the human species originated?"

For asking this question, Professor Dini was accused of engaging in overt religious discrimination. As a result, a legal complaint was filed against Dini by the Liberty Legal Institute. Supporters of the complaint feared that consequences of the widespread adoption of Dini’s requirement would include a virtual ban of Christians from the practice of medicine and other related fields.

In an effort to defend his criteria for recommendation, Dini claimed that medicine was first rooted in the practice of magic. Dini said that religion then became the basis of medicine until it was replaced by science. After positing biology as the science most important to the study of medicine, he also posited evolution as the "central, unifying principle of biology" which includes both micro- and macro-evolution, which applies to all species.

In addition to claiming that someone who rejects the most important theory in biology cannot properly practice medicine, Dini suggested that physicians who ignore or neglect Darwinism are prone to making bad clinical decisions. He cautioned that a physician who ignores data concerning the scientific origins of the species cannot expect to remain a physician for long. He then rhetorically asked the following question: "If modern medicine is based on the method of science, then how can someone who denies the theory of evolution -- the very pinnacle of modern biological science -- ask to be recommended into a scientific profession by a professional scientist?"

In an apparent preemptive strike against those who would expose the weaknesses of macro-evolution, Dini claimed that "one can validly refer to the ‘fact’ of human evolution, even if all of the details are not yet known." Finally, he cautioned that a good scientist "would never throw out data that do not conform to their expectations or beliefs."

The legal aspect of this controversy ended this week with Dini finally deciding to change his recommendation requirements. But that does not mean it is time for Christians to declare victory and move on. In fact, Christians should be demanding that Dini’s question be asked more often in the court of public opinion. If it is, the scientific community will eventually be indicted for its persistent failure to address this very question in scientific terms.

Christians reading this article are already familiar with the creation stories found in the initial chapters of Genesis and the Gospel of John. But the story proffered by evolutionists to explain the origin of the species receives too little attention and scrutiny. In his two most recent books on evolution, Phillip Johnson gives an account of evolutionists’ story of the origin of the human species which is similar to the one below:

In the beginning there was the unholy trinity of the particles, the unthinking and unfeeling laws of physics, and chance. Together they accidentally made the amino acids which later began to live and to breathe. Then the living, breathing entities began to imagine. And they imagined God. But then they discovered science and then science produced Darwin. Later Darwin discovered evolution and the scientists discarded God.

Darwinists, who proclaim themselves to be scientists, are certainly entitled to hold this view of the origin of the species. But that doesn’t mean that their view is, therefore, scientific. They must be held to scientific standards requiring proof as long as they insist on asking students to recite these verses as a rite of passage into their "scientific" discipline.

It, therefore, follows that the appropriate way to handle professors like Michael Dini is not to sue them but, instead, to demand that they provide specific proof of their assertion that the origin of all species can be traced to primordial soup. In other words, we should pose Dr. Dini’s question to all evolutionists. And we should do so in an open public forum whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Recently, I asked Dr. Dini for that proof. He didn’t respond.

Dini’s silence as well as the silence of other evolutionists speaks volumes about the current status of the discipline of biology. It is worth asking ourselves whether the study of biology has been hampered by the widespread and uncritical acceptance of Darwinian principles. To some observers, its study has largely become a hollow exercise whereby atheists teach other atheists to blindly follow Darwin without asking any difficult questions.

At least that seems to be the way things have evolved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creatins; creation; crevo; crevolist; darwin; evoloonists; evolunacy; evolution
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To: Dataman
You need to read up on the Dini case. What you say is not related to Dini and his bigotry.

Hardly, but that's ok, you can ignore any evidence you like, creationists of your ilk always do. Think of it as a test in the classroom of life. And like most classes, if you think you aren't going to pass, well, ask someone else for a recommendation, or drop the class and wait for an easier teacher. Life's just hard, ain't it?

81 posted on 04/29/2003 1:31:42 PM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: Remedy
Nice try, John Paul II, never, ever "eaffirmed the commitment of the Catholic Church to evolution in 1996"....

I get real sick and tired of people claiming that, when in fact it never happened.
82 posted on 04/29/2003 1:34:00 PM PDT by RomanCatholicProlifer
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To: Dataman
What makes some people angry, in my opinion, is not the rejection of evolutionary tenets per se, but the insistence on non-scientific arguments in any area which are not founded on reason.

You mean like something coming from nothing? Like life coming from non-life? Like a complete and massive genetic code found in a bacteria? You mean like whales trotting around on land like horses?

No, just a complete misrepresentation of an entire branch of science. Like what you did above. And you always seem to do. Par for the course for a Gish-type YEC. Never anything substantive, just the same old tired arguments.

83 posted on 04/29/2003 1:36:07 PM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: Dataman
Oh, you mean the Paluxy river tracks?
84 posted on 04/29/2003 1:36:21 PM PDT by BMCDA (Atheists do not so much reject God as bad arguments in His favor)
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To: Dataman
Ask those who get angry.
85 posted on 04/29/2003 1:38:09 PM PDT by stanz
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To: whattajoke
Heck, you still read what Eff-dot posts? ;^D
86 posted on 04/29/2003 1:40:15 PM PDT by BMCDA (Atheists do not so much reject God as bad arguments in His favor)
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To: whattajoke
But he is a Paragon of Creationism.
87 posted on 04/29/2003 1:43:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: f.Christian
With your shallow understanding of epistemology I can see why you would reject the theory of evolution.
88 posted on 04/29/2003 1:45:43 PM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: Dataman
Hodar, Post 30: "A letter of recommendation is NOT an official form, it is not required, and it is a GIFT that may be freely given, or witheld by anyone, for any reason. Do you give a personal recommendation to everyone, regardless of your opinion of them? If so, your recommendation would soon be totally worthless."

Your response: "Been there, done that. Do you defenders of bigotry have any NEW or even ORIGINAL ideas? Hey- if it's as simple as you say, there's nothing to worry about."

I frankly don't recall your response to the point raised by Hodar. It was apparently so eloquent that the point can now be simply dismissed out of hand. Can you remind me why it is that the discretionary nature of a letter of recommendation has no bearing?

89 posted on 04/29/2003 1:48:30 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: BMCDA
I know, I don't know what came over me today... I've been successfully ignoring his nonsense (and it's not even in convenient blue for easy skipping) for months now, but today he called me a liberal and I had to respond. I'll go another 3 months now that its out of my system.
90 posted on 04/29/2003 1:49:02 PM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Hodar
Anyone may refuse to write a letter of recommendation to anyone, for any reason, or no reason. Granted, he's acting like a jerk; but he has the right to do so.

Also granted, in a free society, we have the right to not support universities which become havens for jerks.

I wonder if Dr. Dini can give an example of a doctor's diagnosis which depends on the theory of evolution.

91 posted on 04/29/2003 1:51:49 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Lysander
ls ...

shallow understanding of epistemology

fC ...

funny ---

why evos can't search ...



I don't think people know the difference between ...

brainwashing (( subconsciousness )) ...

and ...

indoctrination (( consciousness )) .

It worries -- rattles them ...

mental housekeeping // inventory (( closets )) ---

what they will (( sin )) -- won't find (( righteouness )) !


closed --- SHUT cavities !

92 posted on 04/29/2003 1:54:07 PM PDT by f.Christian (( There (( evolution )) ... but for the grace (( love // Truth )) of God --- go (( WAS )) I . ))
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To: Dataman
Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons.

While I lack the credentials to make any statements regarding the origin of the species (My field is computer science), I do not see how that is "the same reason" as any statement regarding any gods.
93 posted on 04/29/2003 1:56:02 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: FactQuest
I went round and round on this before in another forum, and found several high school biology text books that had abiogenesis in the Evolution unit.

Most high school textbooks are sorely lacking, which is why the high school that I attended used college-level books. Most biology classes, include the ones I took in HS and college, teach them one behind the other, as a cohesive whole.

I cannot argue against your personal experience, but how would you know of classes outside of those that you've taken?
94 posted on 04/29/2003 1:58:08 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
While I lack the credentials to make any statements regarding the origin of the species (My field is computer science), I do not see how that is "the same reason" as any statement regarding any gods.

List a few reasons why you don't believe in "gods."

95 posted on 04/29/2003 1:59:25 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: atlaw
Are you defending bigotry too?
96 posted on 04/29/2003 2:00:09 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
List a few reasons why you don't believe in "gods."

List a few reasons why you don't believe in "the Tooth Fairy."

Would the lists be any different?

97 posted on 04/29/2003 2:02:58 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Dataman
List a few reasons why you don't believe in "gods."

list a few reasons why you don't believe in Vishnu, Buddha, Mohammad, Mithra, Thor, Zeus, etc, and you will have answered the question. Pretty simple.
98 posted on 04/29/2003 2:08:06 PM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Dataman
The politically correct siren call that bigotry (occasionally real, usually imagined) must be rooted out even if it means stifling freedom of association and freedom of speech does not appeal to me. Besides, I don't see any bigotry here.

Now, my question was, can you tell me why it is that the discretionary nature of a letter of recommendation has no bearing?
99 posted on 04/29/2003 2:08:13 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: balrog666
>"Pulling it all together, what we have right here in our own country are all of the ingredients necessary for a totalitarian police state. We have a federal government that nobody in his right mind would trust, which lies to us incessantly, uses illegal force against its citizens with impunity, and collaborates with totalitarian dictators under cover of a massive propaganda campaign conducted by our supposedly free press. Our major information media are dominated by closet totalitarians who pay lip service to democracy while covertly promoting the interests of communist despots. The political opposition is made up largely of cowards who are so intimidated by our totalitarian propaganda media they are unable to offer effective resistance to even the most egregious violations of civil liberties by the corrupt Clinton regime. They have become, in the fullest sense of the term, Weimar Republicans."

"And finally, we have that which makes it all possible, a listless, docile, dumbed-down public who gape mindlessly at all of the above phenomena without the slightest glimmer of comprehension, and prattle the latest propaganda cliches dumped into their empty heads by the mainstream media."

"The Elian affair has truly given us a... glimpse---into the abyss of tyranny."

"The message that comes through loud and clear is that the system isn't working. The question that remains to be answered is whether we still possess the intelligence and fortitude necessary to fix it."

Edward Zehr(deceased...nov--2001) can(not) be reached at ezehr@capaccess.org

Published in the May. 22, 2000 issue of The Washington Weekly(defunct)

Copyright 2000 The Washington Weekly.

Now Free Access to All Stories at http://www.federal.com

100 posted on 04/29/2003 2:08:21 PM PDT by f.Christian (( There (( evolution )) ... but for the grace (( love // Truth )) of God --- go (( WAS )) I . ))
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