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The Dini-gration of Darwinism
AgapePress ^ | April 29, 2003 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 04/29/2003 10:43:39 AM PDT by Remedy

Texas Tech University biology professor Michael Dini recently came under fire for refusing to write letters of recommendation for students unable to "truthfully and forthrightly affirm a scientific answer" to the following question: "How do you think the human species originated?"

For asking this question, Professor Dini was accused of engaging in overt religious discrimination. As a result, a legal complaint was filed against Dini by the Liberty Legal Institute. Supporters of the complaint feared that consequences of the widespread adoption of Dini’s requirement would include a virtual ban of Christians from the practice of medicine and other related fields.

In an effort to defend his criteria for recommendation, Dini claimed that medicine was first rooted in the practice of magic. Dini said that religion then became the basis of medicine until it was replaced by science. After positing biology as the science most important to the study of medicine, he also posited evolution as the "central, unifying principle of biology" which includes both micro- and macro-evolution, which applies to all species.

In addition to claiming that someone who rejects the most important theory in biology cannot properly practice medicine, Dini suggested that physicians who ignore or neglect Darwinism are prone to making bad clinical decisions. He cautioned that a physician who ignores data concerning the scientific origins of the species cannot expect to remain a physician for long. He then rhetorically asked the following question: "If modern medicine is based on the method of science, then how can someone who denies the theory of evolution -- the very pinnacle of modern biological science -- ask to be recommended into a scientific profession by a professional scientist?"

In an apparent preemptive strike against those who would expose the weaknesses of macro-evolution, Dini claimed that "one can validly refer to the ‘fact’ of human evolution, even if all of the details are not yet known." Finally, he cautioned that a good scientist "would never throw out data that do not conform to their expectations or beliefs."

The legal aspect of this controversy ended this week with Dini finally deciding to change his recommendation requirements. But that does not mean it is time for Christians to declare victory and move on. In fact, Christians should be demanding that Dini’s question be asked more often in the court of public opinion. If it is, the scientific community will eventually be indicted for its persistent failure to address this very question in scientific terms.

Christians reading this article are already familiar with the creation stories found in the initial chapters of Genesis and the Gospel of John. But the story proffered by evolutionists to explain the origin of the species receives too little attention and scrutiny. In his two most recent books on evolution, Phillip Johnson gives an account of evolutionists’ story of the origin of the human species which is similar to the one below:

In the beginning there was the unholy trinity of the particles, the unthinking and unfeeling laws of physics, and chance. Together they accidentally made the amino acids which later began to live and to breathe. Then the living, breathing entities began to imagine. And they imagined God. But then they discovered science and then science produced Darwin. Later Darwin discovered evolution and the scientists discarded God.

Darwinists, who proclaim themselves to be scientists, are certainly entitled to hold this view of the origin of the species. But that doesn’t mean that their view is, therefore, scientific. They must be held to scientific standards requiring proof as long as they insist on asking students to recite these verses as a rite of passage into their "scientific" discipline.

It, therefore, follows that the appropriate way to handle professors like Michael Dini is not to sue them but, instead, to demand that they provide specific proof of their assertion that the origin of all species can be traced to primordial soup. In other words, we should pose Dr. Dini’s question to all evolutionists. And we should do so in an open public forum whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Recently, I asked Dr. Dini for that proof. He didn’t respond.

Dini’s silence as well as the silence of other evolutionists speaks volumes about the current status of the discipline of biology. It is worth asking ourselves whether the study of biology has been hampered by the widespread and uncritical acceptance of Darwinian principles. To some observers, its study has largely become a hollow exercise whereby atheists teach other atheists to blindly follow Darwin without asking any difficult questions.

At least that seems to be the way things have evolved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creatins; creation; crevo; crevolist; darwin; evoloonists; evolunacy; evolution
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Bacteria do not become resistant to antibotics. It's just that the ones that are resistant survive and the other ones die out. But the resistant ones were there in the first place. There is no evidence that mutations caused that resistance in some that others did not have. It is just possible that ALL of the bacteria at one point in history HAD that resistance but some, through mutations LOST IT.

There is no proof that mutations gave the surving bacteria that resistance. NONE. Cite your scientific research for this one. It is just that you have accepted the common assumption that is SOME creatures survive and others die out and some have a feature that helped them surive that that feature MUST HAVE been the result of a mutation. WHY SO? If you do not observe the mutation happening - it is possible that the DNA Of this creature contained that feature and some received it and some lost it. HOW the feature got there in the first place SCIENCE DOES NOT KNOW but scientist do speculate.
301 posted on 05/01/2003 1:50:34 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: balrog666
That is, to all appearances, irrational. Isn't it quoted in it's entirety in #275?

But that posting was by a creationist, and therefore held to a different standard.

302 posted on 05/01/2003 1:51:10 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
evolutionist who believe that there is a god who used evolutionary method to bring us about must also believe that this god is pretty bad - using DEATH and nature raw tooth and claw to "evolve" humans in a struggle of the survival of the fittest - wow some kind of god he is
303 posted on 05/01/2003 1:51:44 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: kkindt
It's just that the ones that are resistant survive and the other ones die out.

And how did those few bacteria get their antibiotic resistance? Were they specially created that way or did they descend from non-resistant bacteria? If they were specially created that way, why would God create a bacteria that would defeat man's attempts to survive it? Does God hate people that much?

304 posted on 05/01/2003 1:55:56 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: kkindt
But your the one who said God created antibiotic-resistant bacteria so that man would be subject to lethal superbugs. How about those pesticide-resistant insects that devour food meant for us?
305 posted on 05/01/2003 1:57:29 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: kkindt
wow some kind of god he is

Did miss something? I thought that was your little god.

306 posted on 05/01/2003 2:05:41 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: kkindt
"evolutionist who believe that there is a god who used evolutionary method to bring us about must also believe that this god is pretty bad - using DEATH and nature raw tooth and claw to "evolve" humans in a struggle of the survival of the fittest - wow some kind of god he is"

I don't think I understand what you're saying here. Why would God on the one hand be "pretty bad" if He used "death and nature raw tooth and claw" to "'evolve' humans", but on the other hand be (presumably) "pretty good" if He simply imposed "death and nature raw tooth and claw" after the fact?
307 posted on 05/01/2003 2:06:04 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: kkindt
There is no proof that mutations gave the surving bacteria that resistance. NONE. Cite your scientific research for this one.

Try here.

308 posted on 05/01/2003 2:06:13 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: kkindt
There is no proof that mutations gave the surving bacteria that resistance. NONE. Cite your scientific research for this one.

Oooh, ooh, let me!

This paper and others it cites shows both in vitro and in vivo that antibiotic resistance to cefotaxime, cefuroxime, ceftazadime, and aztreonam evolved by single amino-acid substitutions from an ancestral penicillinase gene. The authors conclusion (and I quote) "The authors take this result as evidence that their in vitro evolution technique accurately mimics natural evolution and can therefore be used to predict the results of natural evolutionary processes. "

Predicting evolutionary potential: In vitro evolution accurately reproduces natural evolution of the TEM b-lactamase. Barlow, Miriam; Hall, Barry G. Biology Department, University of Rochester, Rochester, NY, USA. Genetics (2002), 160(3), 823-832.

309 posted on 05/01/2003 2:08:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: kkindt
Ask your god why he made my spinal column and knees not particularly well suited for urban life. While you're at it, help a brother out with my nipples and my appendix. Oh, and perhaps some insight (pun intended) into why my eyes are certainly not suited for close reading at all.

Shall I continue or are your neurons on overload? Of course not, because you fail to see my point.
310 posted on 05/01/2003 2:15:46 PM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Right Wing Professor
Oooh, ooh, let me!

Don't look now, but your inner primate is showing. Ooh, ooh, ook!

311 posted on 05/01/2003 2:21:14 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
Perfectly innocent, non-offensive, non-Darwinian, and content-free placemarker.
(It is wise to appease the mods, blessed be they.)
312 posted on 05/01/2003 2:26:13 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: kkindt
So wait... the fossil record (planted by satan) is actually a snapshot of all those species who "devolved" to the point of extinction? And the current scientific understanding that these fossils represent a progression, of sorts, are wrong in that they *actually* show "devolved" species that didn't start out with the "top of the line" mutation/perfection dna code?

dude, I smell MAJOR grant money and awards for you! You've turned all biology, paleontology, geology, genetics, and many more on their heads! And to think... we all knew you back when you were just a freeper...

Good luck with your first peer reviewed paper!

/creationist backslapping mode>
313 posted on 05/01/2003 2:37:37 PM PDT by whattajoke
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To: kkindt
And the observed fact that nature is pretty cruel is explained by you in what way?
314 posted on 05/01/2003 2:44:07 PM PDT by js1138
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To: whattajoke
Ask your god why he made my spinal column and knees not particularly well suited for urban life.

That's 'cos your knees are for kneeling. See, God even made the two words similar, to give you a big clue.

While you're at it, help a brother out with my nipples and my appendix.

This is no place for personal ads.

Oh, and perhaps some insight (pun intended) into why my eyes are certainly not suited for close reading at all.

Didn't they warn you about that when you were approaching puberty? !@#$% public schools!

315 posted on 05/01/2003 2:50:01 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: balrog666
inner primate placemarker

oook! ook!

316 posted on 05/01/2003 2:52:54 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
I love the mods.
O masters, if I were disposed to stir
Your hearts and minds to mutiny and rage,
I should do Brutus wrong, and Cassius wrong,
Who, you all know, are honourable men:
I will not do them wrong; I rather choose
To wrong the dead, to wrong myself and you,
Than I will wrong such honourable men.

-- Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 2


317 posted on 05/01/2003 2:58:05 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: balrog666
Don't look now, but your inner primate is showing

My inner primate is a bonobo. For a long time when I was younger I'd cruise singles bars with a bunch of bananas, hoping to get lucky. Trouble is, very few wimmin seem to be in touch with their inner bonobo.

318 posted on 05/01/2003 2:59:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: PatrickHenry
You forgot the /Elizabethan irony tag.
319 posted on 05/01/2003 3:01:05 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Some things are just understood. By the way, did you ever find a woman who would grab for the bananna?
320 posted on 05/01/2003 3:02:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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