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To: syriacus
Are Latinos undeserving of attention?

Boy, I knew I would get you sooner or later - so we are practicing racial politics - aren't we? Why didn't you just admit it to begin with and say you think it is fine or it shouldn't happen. Instead, I have had 2 or 3 people on here with long posts, and links, and yada, yada, yada trying to convince (not me) that President Bush has no interest in this man because he is Hispanic -

So now that you have admitted it - what do you think of it? Racial politics is OK if you are the one who is doing it? Racial politics is OK if you feel you cause is good enough? What?

My answer to your question - ALL AMERICANS are worth of attention - ALL - period. Anything different is vile racial politics - anyway you cut the pie.

Now quite frankly, you can keep wasting your breathe - but you have admitted what another poster finally did - well if we do it just a little, our back is against the wall, etc.

What is your stand on it - Do we look at Americans as Americans or as groups? Do we treat them as Americans or as groups? Those are your only two choices - you have no other - so make your choice - just be honest enough to admit it.

152 posted on 04/30/2003 12:56:56 PM PDT by nanny
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To: nanny
I don't have anything against Latinos.
159 posted on 05/01/2003 7:54:54 AM PDT by syriacus (Our tagline composers are assisting other customers. Your input is important to us. Enjoy the music)
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To: nanny
Boy, I knew I would get you sooner or later

I truly hope you get some sense of satisfaction from your victory.

We all need successes in our daily lives and I can afford (emotionally) to provide you with yours in this case. Let's see....I feel okay...Pulse close to normal. BP just about the same as usual. Outlook on life still sunny and optimistic.....

When you get to my advanced age, you learn that you win some and you lose some and that learning to see the truth is more important than winning an argument.

You still haven't convinced me that you are not looking through the wrong end of a telescope on this Estrada/racism issue. I've learned, from my experiences with the tactics of liberals, that people can pick at something, take it out of context and magnify it and pretend it is something it isn't. Even a dust mite under a microscope looks pretty threatening.

In the big picture of things, it doesn't matter whether I can convince you to see things my way. It does matter to me that I get to say what I think about things, and hear what others have to say.

One outcome of this discussion with you:

I have become even more convinced that Estrada is being viewed by the liberals, not as a human being, but as a sacrificial animal.
They have dehumanized him, treat him differently than other candidates for similar positions, and they will use any tactic to deny this man the position that the majority of Senators think he deserves.

Tell me, if you will.....Don't you think Schumer seems to have it "in" for Estrada (in particular)? Does Schumer have a yearning to be on the Supreme Court, himself? Too bad he dropped out of practicing law...he would have had a better chance if he'd stayed in law.

I'm glad I don't feel particularly threatened by Latinos who are Jesuit educated and conservative and smart.

161 posted on 05/01/2003 8:41:59 AM PDT by syriacus (Our tagline composers are assisting other customers. Your input is important to us. Enjoy the music)
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To: nanny
Now quite frankly, you can keep wasting your breathe - but you have admitted what another poster finally did - well if we do it just a little, our back is against the wall, etc.

That poster was me. And you are misrepresenting what I wrote.

Your contention that the Democrats have blocked Estrada only because he is conservative (and not because he is a conservative Latino genius) is weakened by your ignoring the important fact that I included in post 151. The Democrats have allowed a vote on Sutton and allowed confirmation of Sutton. As the quote in post 149 says...."Throughout the debate, Sutton's critics portrayed him as a right-wing extremist."

Can you tell me why Sutton got to have his vote, and Estrada doesn't get to have one?

Hmmmm......This discussion is making me think the Democrats mostly don't like Estrada because he is much smarter than they are and they are worried he will make them look like fools.

Could you agree with me on this....

Democrats won't allow a vote on Estrada, partly because they have an anti-genius bias

?

162 posted on 05/01/2003 9:39:08 AM PDT by syriacus (Our tagline composers are assisting other customers. Your input is important to us. Enjoy the music)
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To: nanny
Do we look at Americans as Americans or as groups? Do we treat them as Americans or as groups? Those are your only two choices - you have no other - so make your choice - just be honest enough to admit it.

Estrada is not being treated as a group by Bush. He is being treated as a human being.

And I think the Democrats are treating Estrada like an animal.

163 posted on 05/01/2003 9:48:12 AM PDT by syriacus (Our tagline composers are assisting other customers. Your input is important to us. Enjoy the music)
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