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Oakland trying to avoid that 'war zone' look Ban on metal bars, roll-down doors considered
SFGate.com ^ | 3/26/03 | Janine DeFao

Posted on 04/28/2003 1:37:54 PM PDT by microgood

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: microgood
Recruit "Baghdad Bob" to shout to the world: "Oakland is SAFE, SAFE, I tell you."

He could invite Mayor Jerry "moonbeam" Brown, for an interview downtown.
21 posted on 04/28/2003 2:08:48 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: microgood
"It gives a sense that our community is not... very safe" said City Manager Robert Bobb.

What an idiot. It probably *isn't* very safe. The problem with this kind of legislation (from gun control, affirmative action, and other long-held PC dogmas) is that they require law-abiding or regular citizens to place their lives and property in mortal danger so others can ignore reality. People *die* because of this nonsense. I've got news folks - reality doesn't like to be ignored for very long.
22 posted on 04/28/2003 2:14:29 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: microgood
Wong said 43 percent of the 2,610 businesses in Oakland's 15 neighborhood commercial revitalization districts -- .....-- use some type of exterior- mounted security gates, grilles, bars and doors.

With a number like that, I think the city council is typical of liberal municipal governments everywhere - since they can't (or won't) fix the problem of crime, they want to burden the local businesses with the cost of crime. I have said it before, and I'll say it again:

Oakland, CA, is home to every piece of riff-raff and street vermin imaginable - and they are there because of the ultra-tolerant LIBERAL/SOCIALIST mentality of city government, a place where a large proportion of the population is made up of whiny, welfare bums, who can always find an excuse to blame somebody else for their problems, and who supplement their social welfare income by selling drugs and stealing from those who work for a living. The city of Oakland, with a population near a half million citizens, has granted just ONE concealed carry permit, the one given to Mayor Jerry Brown's bodyguard. Everybody else is just SOL, unless they live and work behind iron bars. The entire city is one open "free crime" zone, courtesy of the city council's refusal to allow people to fight back. The city police force does as good a job as any, but this is just another example of how criminals have nearly free reign in places where only cops and crooks carry firearms, kind of like England.

23 posted on 04/28/2003 2:14:32 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: microgood
OK....I'm starting a new LIST....the list of what the LEFT has screwed up in the last 50 years.....I'll start it with Banning GUNS....any other suggestions?
24 posted on 04/28/2003 2:16:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (He (or she) who pays the bills, makes the rules.)
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To: N. Theknow
Are they also putting smiley faces on their body bags for the coroner's office?

Maybe they could get the gangs to use smiley face ski-masks as a good faith act for the community.
25 posted on 04/28/2003 2:16:30 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Redcloak
Better to just make a law that requires all citizens to be tied up naked and left on the floors of their kitchens with the doors and windows open. Just get it over with.
26 posted on 04/28/2003 2:19:15 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: microgood
No mention of Mayor Moonbeam, how did he get LEFT out of this article?
27 posted on 04/28/2003 2:23:50 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: My2Cents
Hey don't get crazy, outlawing crime, what are you thinking?
28 posted on 04/28/2003 3:17:02 PM PDT by Howeln
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To: microgood
We all know that the greatest need in Oakland is for a new home ballpark for the Athletics.
29 posted on 04/28/2003 3:21:00 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents
Instead of outlawing security measures, maybe if Oakland would get serious about outlawing crime....

My friend, outlawing crime in Oakland would eliminate 75% of the population. For those of you who have never been to Oakland, count your blessings, send me to hell first! TO HELL!!

30 posted on 04/28/2003 3:21:03 PM PDT by golder
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To: 45Auto
Oakland, CA, is home to every piece of riff-raff and street vermin imaginable

You are being much too kind. This place is a nightmare, a living hell. No pun intended. If the question is asked, I'm the farthest thing from a bigot, perhaps that is part of my extreme hatred for this Godless hell.

P.S. The vast majority of the government and most employed by same, are not just crooks, the are violent soulless devils. I know!!

31 posted on 04/28/2003 3:36:27 PM PDT by golder
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To: microgood
"It gives a sense that our community is not a very safe city,"

Talk about combatting the symptoms instead of the problem ...

32 posted on 04/28/2003 3:44:37 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: HIDEK6
Barbed wire and metal bars make Oakland's business districts look like war zones, say city officials ...

If these are your typical city officials, they have no idea what a war zone looks like.

DETROIT.

33 posted on 04/28/2003 3:45:41 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: microgood
Johnny Crook: "Hey boys, let's go do a few smash and grabs!!!"
34 posted on 04/28/2003 3:47:35 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Mister Baredog
I think you'll find that Jerry Brown is far more conservative than you remember. He has become the proverbial "liberal who got mugged" in his september years.
35 posted on 04/28/2003 3:49:41 PM PDT by GoreIsLove
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To: microgood
"It gives a sense that our community is not a very safe city,"

by the time you see bars on windows,doors,and barbed wire on fences and even roof edges is too late to worry about looks,crime is out of hand,just like south central los angeles,

36 posted on 04/28/2003 3:50:53 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Mrs Mark
DETROIT.

Where the weak are killed and eaten!!!

37 posted on 04/28/2003 3:53:46 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: microgood
"We need more time to educate the merchants."
- Chuong Khac Nguyen

Spoken like a true Marxist.
Go back to China, or Viet Nam or North Korea or wherever you came from, you shmuck.

38 posted on 04/28/2003 3:56:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: goodnesswins
Creating a welfare state that acts as a drain on our economy?

Screwing up our schools so that kids may have high self-esteem, but can't add?

Destroying family values, thus create situations that result in a lot of kids growing up without a father or a mother?

Any of these good for your list?
39 posted on 04/28/2003 4:08:35 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: microgood
Once again, liberals show that they think that the solution to any problem (which half the time was caused by one of their other 'solutions') is to attack the symptoms and pass more laws and regulate more. I NEVER works, but nobody ever seems to care.
40 posted on 04/28/2003 4:13:40 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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