dark side of the moon

los angeles times ^ | 4.28.03 | lesley chamberlain

[liberalnot]

it is not the case, as those who see communism as the equivalent of or worse than nazism have argued, that leonid brezhnev's russia was stalinist. under communism, people slept more easily in their beds and led happier lives.

[liberalnot]

unbelievable!

more people were killed under stalin than hitler. how she can say that people slep more easily, i have no idea.

[Paleo Conservative]

how she can say that people slep more easily, i have no idea.

Dirt naps.

[fish hawk]

Yes, they slept deep (6 ft.) and for a long long time.

[Alouette]

Here's the link

[liberalnot]

thanks.

i took it out of today's print edition.

[handk]

Also, English major, not.

[backhoe]

That Bloody Century Pass'd..."

[chilepepper]

Her source on people "sleeping better" under Stalin must be
Walter Duranty articles in the New York Time from the 1930's.

[ricpic]

"Yes, they slept deep (6 ft.) and for a long time."

And with the fishes, fishy bird?

[liberalnot]

several weeks ago the nyt had a list of its pulitzer prize winners, and honest to god, they listed walter duranty!

[liberalnot]

thanks.

i've heard about "black book on communism".

anyone read it?

[Rockitz]

Sorry, I don't read the Slimes- haven't for over 14 years.

[DoctorMichael]

I still can't believe this is a 'major' US newspaper of record.

What a joke.

[tet68]

Why not, they are PROUD of him.

[plusone]

Walter Duranty helped cover up the Ukrainian Holocaust of 1932/33. Somewhere between 6 and 9 million Ukrainian farmers (private farmers called 'kulaks') were starved to death under orders of Stalin because they refused to give up their land for the collective farms. And Duranty wrote glowing reports about the socialist paradise that Stalin was creating. To this day, the Times has never acknowledged their complicity in covering up one of the biggest mass murders in history, preceding the Jewish holocaust a full ten years...

[Billy_bob_bob]

I've heard numbers even higher than that. Yet there are no movies about the kulaks, no TV miniseries, no long and weepy newspaper articles. Not a word, really. Funny thing.

[tet68]

from the article, It was very hard to read, small type but I found the book of some interest, the reviewer on the other hand kept making excuses for the depths of communist
depravity and not wanting to compare it to Naziism.

From the article


Evil is not morally complex, but the nature of the society that sustained the gulag was. The difficulty of embracing absurdity alongside tragedy may be yet another reason why we lag so far behind in our understanding of this terrible aspect of the 20th century and why, happily, no Hollywood director has yet attempted the impossible.

Long overdue in my opinion.

One wonders,"...why, happily....."???

[plusone]

Yeah, it's like Hitler said about another forgotten Holocaust, "but who remembers the Armenians..." Some groups just have better connections, I guess.

[Skooz]

There is one. It's called "Harvest of Despair." Don't look for it to show up on your local PBS affiliate anytime soon, though. It is a damning indictment of Stalinism. I think the folks at PBS would rather slit their wrists than show it.

[Skooz]

In college, I wrote a rather long and detailed term paper on the Turkish slaughter of the Armenians 1918-1922. It is incomprehensible that the world largely forgets that holocaust.