[firewalk]

The victims were the chief of the Tacoma Police Department and his wife.

The police chief was not a "victim" of this shooting.

[FirstTomato]

Yes, he was probably a victim, just as much a victim as the woman.

I think it is rare in any relationship like this where one person is the bad guy and the other is not. It takes two people to make this kind of horror.

People who have been in these situations as spouses think about this in one way, with blinders on.

But ask children who have lived under these conditions. There is always a dynamic that can't be explained in simplistic terms, and weapons (in the broadest sense) are used by both people. It is just that men often choose more lethal weapons, so automatically to much of society this makes them the bad guy. The truth is often quite different.

[AdamSelene235]

The police chief was not a "victim" of this shooting.

No, no. That's asking for personal responsibility. Obviously, these folks were victims of the gun, the Bill of Rights, and probably Bush.