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GOP memo predicts drop in Bush poll numbers
CNN ^ | Friday, April 25, 2003 | Sean Loughlin - CNN Washington Bureau

Posted on 04/27/2003 11:06:26 AM PDT by Willie Green

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A GOP memo distributed to Republicans across the country predicts that President Bush's high approval ratings will soon "drop to more realistic levels" and that some polls may show him behind Democratic rivals, but cautions that such a development should not be cause for alarm.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; matthewdowd; pollsoniraq
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1 posted on 04/27/2003 11:06:26 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Bump.
2 posted on 04/27/2003 11:22:25 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Willie Green
You're going to get reamed for posting this..
3 posted on 04/27/2003 11:24:38 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Jhoffa_
Here come the Bush Bots. The adults are in charge now, even though they ran up the biggest deficit in history, invaded Iraq and have failed to find any WMD's. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.
4 posted on 04/27/2003 11:40:25 AM PDT by meenie
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To: Willie Green
This article or several like it have been posted MULTIPLE times within the last week!

Your point?!
5 posted on 04/27/2003 11:43:54 AM PDT by DrDeb
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To: meenie
Well, I mean common sense would dictate that domestic issues will play an important role and have increased media attention during the election run-up.

They always have and this will be compounded by the economic slump and the fact that the opposition has to get traction on domestic issues if they are to have any traction at all. It's not "anti-dubya" to mention this, it's a simple statement of fact. Look at Bush 41 for example.

But, there's some people who don't want to hear the truth. And I figured, sure as the sun rises in the east that WG would get reamed for posting the obvious.

6 posted on 04/27/2003 11:48:54 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: DrDeb
This article or several like it have been posted MULTIPLE times within the last week!

As is my habit, I searched on the word "predicts" before I posted.

Your point?!

My point is that this article was not previously posted under this title.

Do you have problems with that?

7 posted on 04/27/2003 11:49:48 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: meenie
Willey Green is a sadistic doom and gloomer who can't help him or her self; it's a sickness. But someone your age who should know better yet still jumps to incorrect and premature conclusions is inexcusable. France would be more to your liking. Learn French. Age doesn't necessarily bring wisdom, does it meenie?
8 posted on 04/27/2003 11:51:35 AM PDT by Consort
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To: deport
The memo in question..........

  April 22, 2003

TO: Governor Marc Racicot
FR: Mathew Dowd
       Senior Advisor, Republican National Committee

RE: Prediction: Some Will Say The "Sky is Falling"-- Again.

President Bush sustained a significantly elevated approval rating in the aftermath of his handling of the tragedy surrounding 9/11. Today his approval ratings are again elevated in the aftermath of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Just as we counseled last spring in the aftermath of 9/11 that the President’s approval numbers would begin to settle out in the months leading up to election day 2002, expect the current high approval numbers to drop to a more realistic level. After 9/11 the President’s approval rating settled at a slower rate over several months with some pundits and Democrats predicting the "sky is falling" each step of the way. The current approval number should settle out beginning fairly soon and happen much faster this time but you can expect a chorus of the "sky is falling" again.

The main difference between then and now is the Democratic base is solidly against the War in Iraq and therefore the approval rise was never going to be as high as the numbers after 9/11 or as long lasting. Our two most recent Presidents to win re-election provide some historical perspective for the relationship between approval ratings and electoral success. President’s Clinton and Reagan were both re-elected by large margins with each having approval ratings in the 50s.

As we get closer to the start of the 2004 Presidential election campaign, the Democratic base vote will continue to solidify. And as President Bush is tested in media polls on head to head ballot questions, it will not be surprising to see the President behind in some polls against potential Democratic candidates and generic Democratic opposition. Every incumbent President in the last 25 years has been behind the opposition in the latter part of his first term- the sky is not falling.

* Throughout 1983, former President Reagan was behind Walter Mondale by as many as nine points, and against possible opponent John Glenn, Reagan was behind by as much as 17 points in 1983. Even at the beginning of 1984, the polls showed the race between Reagan and Mondale was a statistical dead heat. Reagan won in a landslide carrying 49 states.

* In 1987 and 1988, Vice President George Bush was behind in generic ballot polls by as many as 15 points, and against Michael Dukakis throughout 1988 Bush was behind by as many as 17 points. It was not until the Republican convention in late summer 1988 that Bush took a small solid lead. Bush went on to win by a fairly good margin in November.

* In 1995 and early 1996, former Senator Robert Dole was often ahead of Clinton in ballot polling. The Wall Street Journal showed Dole with a two point lead in 1995. And Gallup had Dole with small leads in 1995 and January 1996 Dole had a three point lead over Clinton.

In addition to approval numbers, pundits and Democrats will place an emphasis on re-elect numbers. Again it is important to have an understanding of historical precedent. Throughout 1995 President Clinton’s re-elect hardly ever got above 40%. In a Battleground poll in April, 1995, Clinton’s re-elect was 21%. The highest point Clinton’s re-elect reached in 1995 was 43% in a poll due in December 1995 for Associated Press. In spite of the low re-elect number, President Clinton ending up winning re-election comfortably.

More recently, in 2002, every major statewide candidate with a re-elect of 45% or higher --- won! The average actual result on election day 2002 showed incumbents finishing 5 to 10 points above their re-elect numbers. It is no longer accurate to suggest that a candidate is vulnerable based solely on an incumbent having a re-elect number under 50%.

As the inevitable discussion proceeds in the months ahead, this memo should provide both perspective and a reality check. President Bush’s approval numbers will again fall back to more realistic levels fairly quickly, and in head to head polls in the months ahead President Bush will at times likely be behind potential Democrats just as former Vice President Bush and Presidents Clinton and Reagan were going into the election. All were quite successful on election day.


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9 posted on 04/27/2003 12:00:07 PM PDT by deport (.......Beware of Idiots bearing gifts........)
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To: meenie
Granted, deficits aren't a good thing, but how many people have died at the hands of a budget deficit? The word is thrown around like it's a serial killer let loose on the city. Why are we running a deficit? Because the government is spending money on its primary duty: protecting the citizenry. Something that hasn't been done very well for a long time.
10 posted on 04/27/2003 12:02:56 PM PDT by Libertarian Jim
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To: Jhoffa_
You're going to get reamed for posting this..

Why? Because it's CNN???
Heck, I posted one from FOX News today, also.

It surprised the heck out of me that these weren't already posted.
I usually ignore FOX, CNN, PMSNBC, etc. for precisely that reason: somebody usually beats me to it.

If people want to whine about my posts, let 'em.
I consider posting articles to be an obligation of forum participation.

11 posted on 04/27/2003 12:04:02 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Bush's numbers may drop, but Pat Buchanan's numbers are non-existent ;o)
12 posted on 04/27/2003 12:04:40 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: Willie Green
There is no doubt that the president's numbers will drop, unless something major happens like the military gets bin Laden. Unfortunately, the American public's attention span isn't very long.

However, the big problem for the Dems as I see it is: who is running who can take advantage of the drop? They're all clowns!

Of course Bill Clinton came from nowhere (Arkansas) the last time, but he campaigned well enough (and lied well enough) to cause people to vote for a Clinton that didn't exist.
13 posted on 04/27/2003 12:12:41 PM PDT by DED (Liberals Never Learn. *LNL*)
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To: Willie Green

No because the focus returning to domestic issues and the economy doesn't favor Dubya as much as the reverse.

I assume some people will have a problem with this, but it would happen with any President at this time regardless.

14 posted on 04/27/2003 12:14:15 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Willie Green
I think the point is for Republicans not to get overconfident of victory. Laziness can kill any candidate.
15 posted on 04/27/2003 12:16:04 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Jhoffa_; Consort
And I figured, sure as the sun rises in the east that WG would get reamed for posting the obvious.

LOL! That's a pretty easy prediction, isn't it?

Here's another:

Consort: " Willey Green is a sadistic doom and gloomer who can't help him or her self; it's a sickness."
Just another whiner who seldom (if ever) contributes any articles for discussion.
16 posted on 04/27/2003 12:17:57 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Yep. I be one of them, there, "psycho's"

Like that "Miss Cleo" Only, I am better lookin'

17 posted on 04/27/2003 12:22:30 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Willie Green
Give it up Willey Green and drop the phoney tag line while you're at it. You're a fake and a bad one, at that. You must have really hated your mother.
18 posted on 04/27/2003 12:24:10 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
"When a man is wrong and won't admit is, he always gets angry."

-- Thomas C. Haliburton


19 posted on 04/27/2003 12:28:52 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Anyone who receives the e-mails from the RNC got this information several days ago. It is reminding us of what Dowd predicted last year, and is logical and not a surprise.

I don't fault you for posting this, since CNN had a different headline. However, the information has been available for some time, and as deport demonstrated, ther were two other articles discussing this poll.

20 posted on 04/27/2003 12:34:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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