[isthisnickcool]

Not true.

What is "not true"? "I wrote "The Russians were shocked at what we did during the first gulf war." I'm not sure hat you mean because it seems you agree with me?

I assure you I'm absolutely accurate that the Russians were shocked at what we did during the first gulf war. Unless the person this information came from was incorrect. Which I doubt because that person is an adviser in the oval office today and has spoken personally with the Russian military commanders of that time.

[xm177e2]

That's not what he's disagreeing with, he's disagreeing with this: "Their generals were told for years that they would beat the US in a ground war. In reality, they didn't have a chance."

[xkaydet65]

We have a disagreement over when not what. You said the Russians never had a chance. That's only true after the mid '80's. Prior to Reagan there was every chance that an attack by Warsaw Pact forces could succeed. One of the truly accurate charges made by Republicans was that by 1980 the military was a hollow shell. Reagan changed that and created the military that won the Gulf War I and shocked the Red Army. Additionally the Army developed Air Land Battle Doctrine which turned away from WW2 set piece engagements and began the growth of the idea that maneuver was as important as the Army's commitment to Flexibility and Firepower.From '70 to 86 a conflict on the inter German Border would have been no sure thing.