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'New Yorkers should be able to choose how they go to hell'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 27, 2003 | Julian Coman

Posted on 04/26/2003 4:37:07 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: Victoria Delsoul
You posted the exact same line that caught my eye -- there's something particularly "New Yorkish" about that one. LOL!
61 posted on 04/27/2003 10:37:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
there's something particularly "New Yorkish" about that one.

You bet! It's a funny line, LOL.

62 posted on 04/27/2003 10:44:16 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: GladesGuru
Actually, NY has never been known as a "Queen City", though we have a borough called Queens.

The city's recovery through the Koch and Rudy administrations coincided with better sanitation of the subway system.

63 posted on 04/27/2003 10:47:00 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Mears

Why hasn't this ever been challenged legally? ...Where are the lawyers on this?

Politicians, bureaucrats and lawyers feed of the same chaos.

The top portion of the below is from another thread but the answer to his question is the same as the answer to yours.

One of the things that has always bothered me the most about DC is the railing against each other by day and then going out for a drink together in the evening.

How can you really believe in something for hours during the day and then put those strong beliefs away in the evening? I have had a few try to explain this to me and condescendingly at that, that this is “politics” and I’m just some dumb skirt, pat me on the head and I’ll go to my sewing. 2 -- WHAT A DIFFERENCE CHARACTER MAKES Black Tie Black Eye

Here's how and why. President Bush is aware of it and leads a rational class act from the top down.

 

Issue 101 -- Chaos House of Cards

How is it that people and society in general have prospered and increased their well being for decades yet the politicians and bureaucrats say we must have another 3,000 laws and regulations each year on top of the 100,000+ laws already on the books... That without them people and society face "disaster". People and society have done quite well without next year's 3,000 new federal laws and regulations. Why all of a sudden can people and society not continue to do quite well without them? The fact is, they'd be better off without 99% of them.

So who really benefits from 3,000 new laws and regulations each year? -- not to mention state laws and regulations. Politicians and bureaucrats. They create boogieman problems and with a complicit media towing their boogieman problems cast a net of false fear and unwarranted despair in people.

Quite literally, they create problems where none exist. They're sick in that they chose to frighten people and foist false despair on them and do that to collect their unearned paychecks. Their job security is predicated on deceiving as many people as possible.

It cost more than just two trillion dollars a year to fund government abuse. That abuse hinders people's development, especially children being indoctrinated rather than educated, harms the economy and is largely responsible for causing false booms and reality-adjusting bust cycles in markets.

Flushing that money down the toilet -- save for military defense spending -- would be better for individuals, their families and society. That's a different way of saying, can't we just pay congress to stay home and not leave their houses. Surely we'd be better off. Politicians and bureaucrats are sick and need your help.

Fully integrated honesty is key. That we have the government we have -- delivered by both Democrats and Republicans -- that has gone so far off course from the government the founders created, is a product of irrationality and dishonesty. Changing the laws via the system is almost completely useless. Politicians create dozens of unconstitutional laws before even considering repealing just one unconstitutional law.

That is not a system -- it's a quagmire of deception, irrationality, fraud and abuse.

Politics is not the solution -- politics is the problem.

Who are the parasites?
Who are the producers?
Ostracizing the parasitical value destroyers
Praise the value producers

Step one for helping politicians and bureaucrats:
Get your head out of their sandbox.

Step two: Demand that they address Issue 101. Do the same with the media.

Step three: Ostracize government officials that fail to honestly address Issue 101. Do the same with the media.

Step four: Champion science and business communities -- often under relentless attack by the government. For they create jobs, necessities, luxuries and ever greater advancements that support human life, family and society -- natural order.

How can you really believe in something for hours during the day and then put those strong beliefs away in the evening?

Their job security is predicated on making it appear that they are solving problems. Since they can't or don't dare touch on the root cause of 99% of the problems it demonstrates that they don't really believe their jobs are to actually solve real problems. Whether either side of the aisle or individual is right or wrong on any given issue is mostly inconsequential.

The plain fact is, at the root of the problem, with a very few exceptions, they're all wrong.

Continued in part two:

The New-era Trend and
How Much Does Character Count?


64 posted on 04/27/2003 10:47:08 AM PDT by Zon
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To: MadIvan
"There's a deli downstairs. They get their sandwiches from there and eat them outside...".

Shut that deli down. Research shows obesity is worse than smoking.

65 posted on 04/27/2003 10:50:42 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: MadIvan
In the words of Gifford Miller, the New York City Council Speaker: "It was decided that people should not have to choose between their health and their jobs."

Hmmm. Looks like the council made their choice for them. Now all of the unemployed restaurant workers can collect welfare in good health.

What a crock! These control freaks are too much. Glad I don't live there.

66 posted on 04/27/2003 10:54:16 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.)
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To: Zon
Thanks,Zon. Sadly,the articles make sense,especially the part that says they create problems where none exist.
67 posted on 04/27/2003 1:42:12 PM PDT by Mears
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To: MadIvan
The reporter quotes "bartender, Mark Sullivan", as saying, "But the way Bloomberg, a billionaire himself through his eponymous financial information service, has timed..."

I don't think so. ;^)
68 posted on 04/27/2003 2:39:33 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: MadIvan
I was thinking of taking up heavy alcoholic drinking after I turned seventy. It's cheaper than the cocktail of prescription drugs that the medical profession doles out to oldsters -- drugs that I seldom see helping the older person in terms of lessened pain, increased mobility, or extended life, but do show a remarkable capacity for draining the public treasury which often subsidizes their use.

Call me a rebel, but now it looks like I'll have to take up smoking too. What's the point of turning seventy if you can't take up all the bad habits that are going to kill you by the time you turn 100?

69 posted on 04/27/2003 2:48:27 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Mears
Did someone say obesity?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901458/posts

Regards,
70 posted on 04/27/2003 5:55:03 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: JoeSchem
Joe,I turned 70 last fall and although I don't drink I smoke,drink tons of coffee and eat candy bars and doughnuts.

Go for it when you reach my age. I don't have any health problems and take no prescription drugs,none at all. Sounds like you might be on to something.
71 posted on 04/28/2003 7:27:28 AM PDT by Mears
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To: JoeSchem
I neglected to mention I'm not overweight either,5'4" and 125 lbs. All those bad things I do to myself and here I am!!!!!!!!
72 posted on 04/28/2003 7:30:37 AM PDT by Mears
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To: IJCR2
I read somewhere (the Post?) that the "Smoking Police" are going to make something like $12.00 to $14.00 per hour to go and around and give tickets to bars that have customers smoking....thats not alot of money. I bet they would be open to bribes....not that I am condoning that.
73 posted on 04/28/2003 7:39:47 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: FeliciaCat
You are correct about the salaries that will be given to the brand-new smoking police. Seems Bloomberg really DOESN'T have a budget crisis after all!

You are also correct in your assumption that they will be tempted with bribes. Ten bucks says they'll take 'em, too.

Regards,
74 posted on 04/28/2003 9:21:09 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: MadIvan
Apparently the punishment is to be elected Mayor. :)

Good one!

75 posted on 04/28/2003 10:32:00 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: FeliciaCat
I bet they would be open to bribes

Oh Yeah!!

They are going to make $13 an hour which assuming they work a full 40 Hours a week comes to only $27,000 a year. Throw in fedral, state and city income taxes that will be ~$17,000 net. Considering a cheap studio apartment in NYC goes for about $1500 a month\$18000 a year if they don't have a second job they are going to have to take bribes just to survive.

76 posted on 04/28/2003 1:24:15 PM PDT by qam1 (Compared to George Pataki -> Hillary Clinton and Grey Davis are ultra-right wingers)
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