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Friedman: The Meaning Of a Skull
The New York Times ^ | 04/27/03 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 04/26/2003 4:32:40 PM PDT by Pokey78

Friday's Times carried a front-page picture of a skull, with a group of Iraqis gathered around it. The skull was of a political prisoner from Saddam Hussein's regime, and the grieving Iraqis were relatives who had exhumed it from a graveyard filled with other victims of Saddam's torture. Just under the picture was an article about President Bush vowing that weapons of mass destruction will be found in Iraq, as he promised.

As far as I'm concerned, we do not need to find any weapons of mass destruction to justify this war. That skull, and the thousands more that will be unearthed, are enough for me. Mr. Bush doesn't owe the world any explanation for missing chemical weapons (even if it turns out that the White House hyped this issue). It is clear that in ending Saddam's tyranny, a huge human engine for mass destruction has been broken. The thing about Saddam's reign is that when you look at that skull, you don't even know what period it came from — his suppression of the Kurds or the Shiites, his insane wars with Iran and Kuwait, or just his daily brutality.

Whether you were for or against this war, whether you preferred that the war be done with the U.N.'s approval or without it, you have to feel good that right has triumphed over wrong. America did the right thing here. It toppled one of the most evil regimes on the face of the earth, and I don't think we know even a fraction of how deep that evil went. Fair-minded people have to acknowledge that. Who cares if we now find some buried barrels of poison? Do they carry more moral weight than those buried skulls? No way.

So why isn't everyone celebrating this triumph? Why is there still an undertow out there, a holding back of jubilation? There are several explanations. For me, it has to do with the nature of Iraq and the Middle East. You always have this worry that in the Middle East, fighting evil is like holding back the desert. The minute you fight off one evil, three others blow in to take its place.

You always worry that maybe these countries are not real states, but are simply collections of tribes that can be controlled only with a fist, and the only options are an evil iron fist or a softer, more benign one. No sooner is Saddam gone than up pops a group of Shiite clerics demanding that Iraq be turned into another Iran. So as much as I believe we did good and right in toppling Saddam, I will whoop it up only when the Iraqi people are really free — not free just to loot or to protest against us, but free to praise us out loud, free to speak their minds in any direction, because they have built a government and rule of law that can accommodate pluralism and stand in the way of evil returning.

I also think many Democrats are reluctant to celebrate because they fear — with good reason — that President Bush will be empowered by this war victory, that he and Karl Rove will use that power to drive through a radical conservative agenda that Democrats fear is erasing separations between church and state, depriving government of the tax funds it needs to maintain decent social and educational programs, and despoiling the environment. Sure, Democrats argue, we did right in Iraq, but if it will only lead to more wrong at home, how good can you feel?

And when you look at the way war critics — from the Dixie Chicks to Tom Daschle — have been savaged by conservatives, it feels as if some people want to use this war to create a multiparty democracy in Iraq and a one-party state in America.

France and Russia refuse to acknowledge that any good was done in Iraq because if America's war ends justify its unilateral means, their power will be further diminished.

The Arab world refuses to acknowledge any good from this war, because many Arab regimes have features in common with Saddam's, and if getting rid of him was good, so would be getting rid of them. And Arab intellectuals and the Arab League won't acknowledge any good having been done in Iraq by America, because it only reminds them that they should have taken care of this problem themselves — and didn't.

Bottom line: We can get rid of the sculptures of Saddam with one tug, but our job is to build a regime in Iraq that won't produce any more battered human skulls. That will be a huge task, which will need many helpers. The challenge for the Arabs, France and Russia is to get over the fact that Mr. Bush did something good, and roll up their sleeves to help make it last. And the challenge for Mr. Bush is to not take the good thing he has done and cast it in an ideological framework that will make people resent it — at home and abroad.  


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atrocities; endofbeginning; iraqifreedom; letsgetonwithit; massgraves; thomaslfriedman

1 posted on 04/26/2003 4:32:41 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
well, when will he complain about how President Bush has been savaged by liberals? That's been more prevalent and publicized as far as I can see. The DC's and Tom D have basically been taken to task for what they have said and done. The President has been savaged because of the fears (and might I add fantasies) of the liberals, much more than for anything he has actually done.

Other than that he did start out with some good points. But he kind of minimized them with the silliness later on in the article. I mean, a one party state in America? What fantasy did he get that from?

2 posted on 04/26/2003 4:56:57 PM PDT by Iowa_Clone (repatriated McGovern worker)
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To: Pokey78
That 'one-party state' crack is just more evidence of the Left's dangerous isolation from reality.
3 posted on 04/26/2003 5:12:45 PM PDT by redbaiter (Harcourt!)
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To: Iowa_Clone
Wonder what Friedman thinks of Begala's statement that President Bush is our Kim Il Jong.
4 posted on 04/26/2003 5:17:38 PM PDT by OldFriend (without the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Pokey78
> Sure, Democrats argue, we did right in Iraq, but if it will only lead to more wrong at home, how good can you feel?

Nice dance, Mr. Friedman. But instead of whining, why not get your side to lead for a change?
5 posted on 04/26/2003 5:29:23 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Pokey78
As far as I'm concerned, we do not need to find any weapons of mass destruction to justify this war. That skull, and the thousands more that will be unearthed, are enough for me.

What nonsense. With standards like that to justify war we would be in Zimbabwe, the Sudan, North Korea and a lot more hell holes. I wonder if he would be in favor of that? - Tom

6 posted on 04/26/2003 5:55:16 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Pokey78
And when you look at the way war critics — from the Dixie Chicks to Tom Daschle — have been savaged by conservatives, it feels as if some people want to use this war to create a multiparty democracy in Iraq and a one-party state in America.

OK, so we can't express ourselves with our wallets now? So refusing to buy Dixie Chicks albums is a "silencing of dissent?"

This is why I hate Friedman. He's an elitist, pompus ass. Sure he knows the mideast. Sure he supported the war on Iraq. Sure he went on Oprah to explain why we had to do this one thing to protect the peace. But he's soft on terror, and he's weak on defending America. He's also clueless about America's obligation to defend freedom in the rest of the world.

7 posted on 04/26/2003 6:22:19 PM PDT by risk (Understand the origins of American rage.)
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To: redbaiter; Iowa_Clone
I think Friedman is both right and wrong on the one-party state idea-- he seems to sense what a lot of people do, the complete moral bankruptcy of the far left of the party. If the Democrats don't toss those people out, they'll lose their souls completely, but if they DO toss them out, they will marginalize themselves. We might see the Dems break into two parties-- the far left, and a centrist party, taking over part of the Republican base (how different, really, are Joe Lieberman and Olympia Snow?)

These are strange times.
8 posted on 04/26/2003 9:11:06 PM PDT by walden
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To: Pokey78
Friedman you are all over the map with this article, but for me this sentence is mindlessness at its best.

For me, it has to do with the nature of Iraq and the Middle East. You always have this worry that in the Middle East, fighting evil is like holding back the desert. The minute you fight off one evil, three others blow in to take its place.

9 posted on 04/26/2003 9:28:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pokey78; PGalt
Friedman is all over the map in general.

This is the same guy whose pointed pre-war remark -- "you don't take the country to war on the wings of a lie" -- encapulated the entire anti-war position. Now we see Friedman maneuvering to get with the program. As a paleocon who expressed grave reservations about the need for this war, I find it grimly instructive to see how liberals inevitably trim their sails to acommodate the prevailing wind. And I'm glad to see validated the anti-war Right's wisdom in keeping the squishy, unreliable Left at arm's length. It's not fun to be unpopular, but at least we have our principles intact.
10 posted on 04/26/2003 9:39:17 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Pokey78
THE LEFT'S MOST ELOQUENT VOICE HAS SURRENDERED....PUT THIS ON PLACARDS, T-SHIRTS, IN PRINT AND ON TV...

"As far as I'm concerned, we do not need to find any weapons of mass destruction to justify this war. That skull, and the thousands more that will be unearthed, are enough for me. Mr. Bush doesn't owe the world any explanation for missing chemical weapons."

11 posted on 04/26/2003 11:13:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Capt. Tom
With standards like that we have been at war with Japan, Germany, North Korea, North Vietnam, etc. How can you justify this war? Liken it to killing Hitler in 1939.
12 posted on 04/27/2003 2:34:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe
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To: Pokey78; All
When I read this, I can only come to the conclusion that we are witnessing Thomas Freidman's transition from liberal to conservative... much as we witnessed David Horowitz' metamorphisis some years back. What makes this conclusion a bit unclear for me, though, is that his transition is still ongoing - but this is where I believe Thomas will ultimately wind up.

Which, IMO, is a good thing... anyone who can so eloquently express the bottom line on the reasons/justifications for the war... "As far as I'm concerned, we do not need to find any weapons of mass destruction to justify this war. That skull, and the thousands more that will be unearthed, are enough for me"... is a true American.

CGVet58
13 posted on 04/27/2003 4:22:53 AM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
With standards like that we have been at war with Japan, Germany, North Korea, North Vietnam, etc. How can you justify this war? Liken it to killing Hitler in 1939.

Japan attacked this country and Germany declared war on us. We went to Korea and Vietnam to stop the spread of communism.

We rightly went to Iraq because we felt in the long term WMD would be given to terrorists to be used against us. We didn't go there to liberatge the Iraqi people. We were offering at one time a chance for Sadaam to stay in power if he cooperated with the inspectors.

If we are to use the reason to invade a country because one group is killing another there are no end of countries we could invade including China and Russia. - Tom

14 posted on 04/27/2003 6:08:27 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Pokey78
I CANNOT believe that Tom Friedman wrote this article!! I thought he was ultra-liberal.

And that the Old York Times ran the article!!!!
15 posted on 04/27/2003 7:58:43 PM PDT by Martus
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