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To: tpaine
Check out the 9th for the necessity to enumerate rights.

You completely ignore our entire legal tradition. The Ninth Amendment cannot be used to create new Constitutional rights that our 500-year-old body of legal history has NEVER recognized.

The founding fathers did not see any problem with the sodomy laws enacted in nearly every state. Sodomy laws were not even remotely controversial, and did not--unlike slavery, for example--contrast with anything contained in the Constitution, Declaration or other founding documents, or the writings and conversations of the Founding Fathers.

If you want to live in a libertarian society, go somewhere else. We have a constitution, rule of law and legal tradition in this country. We're not supposed to be ruled by just whatever any judge can pull out of his a$$.

538 posted on 04/28/2003 6:58:53 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Just gave Santorum's DC office a call of support.....
202-224-6324

Staff person was mist gracious & said that the Senator really appreciates the calls of support from all over the country!

I see this as a free speech issue first.....as well as legal. i told the staffer that Santorum's PR people should be more careful in the future to check into the reporter's connection to those who would like to deatroy him politically!
539 posted on 04/28/2003 7:03:58 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Nor is there a blanket right to "privacy" or any such thing. 407 -toh-

Nor is there a blanket right to "breathe" or any such thing. [sarcastic? You bet.]
Check out the 9th for the necessity to enumerate rights. - And reflect that your denial of a right to privacy for yourself is just fine with me. Join some commune, - whatever.. Live as you please.. And let me & mine be.
413 -tpaine-

You completely ignore our entire legal tradition. The Ninth Amendment cannot be used to create new Constitutional rights that our 500-year-old body of legal history has NEVER recognized.

They were first recognised in our constitution, then reiterated in the 14th. You ignore them, not I.

The founding fathers did not see any problem with the sodomy laws enacted in nearly every state. Sodomy laws were not even remotely controversial, and did not--unlike slavery, for example--contrast with anything contained in the Constitution, Declaration or other founding documents, or the writings and conversations of the Founding Fathers.

See the BOR's. Rights to a private life, liberty, & private property are protected.

If you want to live in a libertarian society, go somewhere else. We have a constitution, rule of law and legal tradition in this country. We're not supposed to be ruled by just whatever any judge can pull out of his a$$.

You are trying to shove your views on a 'moral society' up ours dispite our constitution, rule of law and legal tradition. Get real, or get lost.

548 posted on 04/28/2003 8:17:45 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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