Helena man a true believer in UFOs

independent record ^ | april-25-2003 | By MARTIN J. KIDSTON, IR Staff Writer

[green team 1999]

Helena man a true believer in UFOs

By MARTIN J. KIDSTON, IR Staff Writer - 04/25/03

Leo Dworshak was a boy in 1932, doing what boys do when growing up in Killdeer, N.D.

But unlike most boys, Dworshak stood witness to a peculiar event that would change his life forever.

Dworshak, now 83, spends his days peering from the big bay window on his mobile home in Helena, watching the spring rains turn his green yard greener. The bumper stickers adorning his blue Chrysler are a telling lot, "Freedom n Vote Republican," and "65 percent of people in America believe in UFOs n the others are in denial."

Dworshak, to be certain, is a believer.

Dworshak, a World War II veteran, shrugs off the social taboos tied to his otherworldly beliefs. If you ask him, UFOs do exist. After all, he's seen them several times, the first on that dark North Dakota night more than 70 years ago.

Dworshak detailed his UFO encounter in his new book, "UFOs Are Among Us n Take My Word." Dedicated to his brother, Michael, who died in the Korean War, the new book has perked the interest of UFO believers nationwide.

"The first time we just saw the ship," Dworshak said on Wednesday. "The second time we entered the UFO and we were in there with the aliens. They showed us the whole ship."

Dworshak still remembers how the spacecraft landed, how odd it looked, and how an invisible force field kept him and his brother at a distance. They watched the strange machine rotate "in a complicated way." The flashing, colored lights formed an outer shell, "like a band or a belt," that circled the vehicle at its widest point.

"The inner shell seemed to be standing still, or perhaps turning the other way," Dworshak said. "It was totally silent and produced no cloud of exhaust fumes or smoke."

The ship returned night after night and eventually the aliens invited the two brothers on board. After being disinfected, Dworshak said, the aliens gave them a tour of the craft. They also showed them the future, one that foretold of the home computer and the rise of Nazi Germany.

Much of our knowledge, Dworshak said, is a gift from an alien race, left behind for us to find, to study, and to contemplate. Still, he remembers what the aliens told him, how humankind would shun his strange experience.

"No one will ever believe you when you tell them about us," he was told.

Joan Byrd, coordinator of the Helena Noetic Sciences Group, has maintained her own interest in UFOs and unexplained phenomena.

"We often deal with these frontier subjects that are not accepted by mainstream society," Byrd said. "When I finally pushed past my beliefs, I started reading accounts and looking at the evidence and I found it overwhelming and really convincing."

Byrd, who holds a doctorate in biology, said the earth shattering implications over the existance of UFOs has kept her interested.

Still, she said, there lies a social taboo that makes it hard for those who have seen UFOs to come forward with their experiences.

In the past year or so, Byrd said, more than 20 people in Helena alone have contacted her to report a UFO sighting.

"I talk to people about UFOs whenever I can," Byrd said. "People are having these experiences and there is all kinds of evidence."

Dworshak said the aliens he met in 1932 don't pose a danger to the human race. Instead, he said, they are watching us while carrying out their mission to study grasshoppers. Dworshak said he was told that the aliens don't want to interfere with the ways of the world.

"They keep 12 people on earth at all times," Dworshak said "They are right among us. They are from the 12th galaxy and the knowledge we've gotten over the last 3,000 years has come from them. They leave it and we just discover it."

The alien ship was a strange place, Dworshak remembered. The spacecraft's chairs would move to accommodate guests at the pointing of an alien finger. The ship itself had a force-field, allowing it to go invisible when needed. As for the aliens, he said, they looked surprisingly like a human n but with twins.

"One alien looked very much like the next," he said.

Dworshak's 1932 encounter wouldn't be his last. Nor would he stand alone in his experiences. Local legend Udo Wartena's UFO encounter in the Big Belt Mountains in the 1940s drew national attention, and Dr. Jesse Marcel, a Helena physician, has his own story to tell.

Marcel's father was the intelligence officer at the Roswell Army Air Field in New Mexico in 1947. He was on hand when a UFO allegedly crashed nearby and an alien body was recovered. That night, he brought home pieces of the wreckage before taking them to the lab at the Army base.

"The foil was very light," Marcel told the Montana Pioneer in November. "It looked pretty flimsy, but it was more substantial than it looked. I didn't try to bend it or tear it, but my dad tried to bend it with a sledgehammer—he could not bend it."

Marcel said we're not the only ones "out here" in the universe.

"The universe is an awfully big place…our galaxy is an awfully big place," he said.

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[Chancellor Palpatine]

I think so. I was just foolin' with Tennessee Bob on the reference, though.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I think so. I was just foolin' with Tennessee Bob on the reference, though.

[hardhead]

Having been a non-seer all my life doesn't mean I belive it isn't possible.........but, living in NW Wyoming, one evening about an hour before sundown I was just gazing at the Rattlesnake range; the mountains are beautiful when the sun sets behind them. The sun was still above the tops. In FRONT of the range a light (or reflected metal, I don't know) was doing dips and immediate turnarounds, going up, then down, and just being weird. You could definitely see it against the light/medium brown and snow of the mountaintops. Now my mother did not birth no dummy and 20 years in the Air Force taught me that planes just cannot do those things without falling apart - besides, the human inside would have barfed his interior out. I still don't know if I believe but there sure as hell are some strange things, maybe natural, who knows; when seen in unnatural settings or circumstances makes you wonder and say 'woo woo'.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

The eagle landed there?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

That should read "Eagle", capitalized.

[green team 1999]

i believe you,there is so many people who have witnessed all kind of crafts in the sky.

[green team 1999]

haarp is in alaska

[Quix]

GET YOUR asbestos suit on.

The radical 'rationalists' addicted to narrow constructions on reality are eater to scream about "tin-foil hatters' at the drop of a tin-foil hat around here.

Evidently any fair-minded discussion about UFO's etc. really winds up their insecurities. And their major defense is an assault on the social status, sanity, reasonablness, IQ, educational levels, research skills, info sorting skills etc. of folks who dare to consider such possible.

Thankfully, some of us have pretty tough hides and go merrily on our ways at least considering a variety of possibilities given the diversity and complexity of the evidence.

Have you checked out the DISCLOSURE PROJECT? You might begin with their DOCUMENT GALLERY AT:


http://www.disclosureproject.org/writings.htm


They have more than 400 high ranking military, scientific and government officials along with lower ranking grunt work guards and other technician sorts who've gone on record in audio, written and video testimony with signed, notorized documentation--and in some cases copies of incredible documents, tapes etc.

Of course, none are so blind as those who will not see.

And it remains to be demonstrated which side of good/evil the bulk of the ET's are on--though most Christians assert that they are at least in cahoots with satan and many Christians think they are 'merely' demons pure and simple.

I don't think all ET's are materialized demons. I suppose it's possible as some assert that they are cloned biological entities housing demonic agents.

A relatively small percentage of the more commonly reported signtings may be angels or angelically related.

Regardless, it appears clear to some of us that the whole phenomenon will be used of Anti-Christ to facilitate the global government tyranny take over of the world as predicted in The Bible and other places.

In fact, as reported in a DISCLOSURE PROJECT document--Werner Von Braun stated to his high ranking PhD assistant the last 4 years of his life that the war on terrorism, the Iraq war AND A COMING WAR AGAINST ET'S were all planned by the puppet masters as early as 1970. He intimated toward what end but refused really to discuss it. He insisted the ET's were benign and the war against them unnecesary and foolish.

We shall see.

[Quix]

GIVEN that God declares this boot camp is about rearing, training, 'purifying' a group of leaders to "rule and reign with Christ" evidently across countless galactic clusters and countless future ages . . .

to rule based on an economy of Love and mercy triumphing over justice . . .

and

that

"ALL CREATION GROANS, WAITING EXPECTANTLY, EAGERLY FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD."

I can imagine why all kinds of ET races might want to observe the process and the winding up of said process in our era.

Of course, there may be a variety of valid other explanations for at least parts of the phenomenon.

[BSunday]

This is series!

[Quix]

SHARED PSYCHOSIS

is a straw dog, IMHO.

psychoses virtually by definition are EXTREMELY IDIOSYNCRATIC. Each individual constructs his own very unique altered reality.

Of course, if one postulates government mind control experiments transmitting shared reality perceptions via some sort of radio or other 'waves,' then I suppose all kinds of 'standardized' realities would be possible to be registered on the sensitive emulsion sheets of the minds of various groups in variouis locales. In which case, get out the aluminum foil hats.

But ONE possible explanation is that the phenomenon is AT LEAST IN PART basically what people perceive it, experience it and state it to have been for them.

I think it's at least interesting when a diverity of people report fairly consistent stories with minor idiosyncratic pecularities--to take them at face value as a starting point.

[Quix]

Hey SUPER FRIEND,

Nice to see your posts, as usual.

[Quix]

I wouldn't doubt your perceptions or experiences at all. Thanks for sharing them.

[realpatriot71]

My man! Gotta 2001 Fatboy myself... Funny how things work in our favor sometimes!!

FTW :-)

[Quix]

It's at least a

HUGH-LY

diverse and geographically widely spread phenomenon.

Of course, some meese appear to see and believe and some don't.

I suppose it depends on what kind of cheese they've been eating?

or cutting?

[realpatriot71]

I think it's at least interesting when a diverity of people report fairly consistent stories with minor idiosyncratic pecularities--to take them at face value as a starting point.

I agree

[BSunday]

Rilly!!! LOL

[MHGinTN]

I've never seen that connected just that way, Quix. Thanks! [I wonder, will time be transcended with the sons as they zip about the universe?... Hmmm, maybe time will be fungible!]

[rightofrush]

Thanks for your link to The Disclosure Project. I've added it to my "favorites".
To quote Pink Floyd, this is "just one more brick in the wall" that may imprison us.

[Quix]

Thanks to you.

I suspect time will be one of many things we can . . . manipulate for fun or otherwise.

But what do I know!