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1 posted on 04/25/2003 7:55:21 AM PDT by Destro
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What is wrong with these people? Can't they carry out their own trash. Ya know it's bad enough they have the audacity to murder our people and burn our flag then they expect us to clean out their toilets for free! And then after we finish the job they insult us. When they passed out the brass balls these guys must have been first in line. Semper Fi
2 posted on 04/25/2003 8:02:20 AM PDT by kellynla ( "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div '69 & '70 An Hoa, Viet Nam Semper Fi)
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Holy Crap!

Is Messiah in the Koran anywhere?

If not, somebody's been sneakin' Jesus in that country.

Talk about your brass balls!
3 posted on 04/25/2003 8:03:48 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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My best friend is an Iranian expat
He and I had a discussion on this very topic some few weeks ago.
He said something very like the content of this article.
Dubya might just be able to pull off a hattrick here.
8 posted on 04/25/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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So this is the "angry response" from the "Arab street" that the Liberals warned us about.

Steeeee-rike!

-Jay
9 posted on 04/25/2003 8:13:22 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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Also on the page: "April 15, 2003: Coalition aircraft bombed the bases of The People's Mujahadeen, an Iranian opposition movement based in Iraq. Comprised mostly of secular Iranians who opposed, first the Shah, and then the Islamic revolution in Iran, they regularly stage raids into Iran. But in 1991 they also helped Saddam suppress rebellions by Kurds and Shias. They are thought to have 10-15,000 armed men and women in several camps along the Iranian border. It was thought that some of the camps were bombed as early as April 4th or 5th. Reporters visiting the camps have found them recently evacuated. Coalition forces report that they have been negotiating with the leaders of the People's Mujahadeen. If members of the People's Mujahadeen were sent back to Iran, many would be imprisoned and executed. Because of that danger, most People's Mujahadeen members have apparently fled the camps and are attempting to get out of Iraq."

I think we can productively use the MEK's 10-15K armed men and women in Iran. True, they aided Hussein against the Shia uprisings in 1991, but I think they were doing it for different reasons than Hussein-- Hussein feared that he would be toppled and the MEKs feared that Iraq would become a total theocratic state like the one Ayatollah Ali Hoseini-Khamenei wants in Iran-- making it considerably less likely that Iran would ever throw off its theocracy. We in the US felt the same fear as the MEK about those uprisings. We wanted a kinder, gentler military dictator to replace Saddam in 1991. I'd be willing to give them a blank slate if they decided to be a true ally against Iran and our other enemies. How about the rest of you here at FR?
14 posted on 04/25/2003 8:22:32 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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The despotic theocracy in Iran can't last. The younger generation with access to the Internet and satelite TV is not content to live a 13th century Islamic lifestyle without any basic freedoms. With a continued US presence in neighboring Iraq effectively blocking any interferrence by other fundamentalist Islamic countries, I see a popular uprising to overthrow the mullahs as just being a matter of time.
24 posted on 04/25/2003 8:51:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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Messiah, No. But it is alright to call W. The Ayatollah of RockanRolla.
25 posted on 04/25/2003 8:54:32 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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Twenty-first century "Domino Effect" in progress?
26 posted on 04/25/2003 8:55:19 AM PDT by Spruce
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The U.S. should everything possible to overturn the brutal, repressive Islamic Theocracy in Iran.

It is as much of a threat to world stability as was Saddam, they are working on a nuclear bomb, we have forces on both sides of their borders, we have an active military opposition force eager to overthrown them, and their is far more spontaneous support for their overthrown domestically than ever existed in Iraq.

This calls for the kind of careful diplomacy with the Iranian moderates which Powell and the pusillanimous U.S. State Department are totally incapable of - subtle aggressive action and subtle, aggressive and consipratorial thinking.
29 posted on 04/25/2003 9:00:25 AM PDT by ZULU
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In Iran, young people are calling American president Bush "the messiah" .....

Someone just scared the crap out of the muslim clergy in that country.

33 posted on 04/25/2003 9:06:01 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It

My advice - Try Jesus

46 posted on 04/25/2003 10:27:42 AM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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Indirectly Bush maybe has already helped them because now their mullahs are so busy trying to meddle in Iraq where they'd have to figure out how to control plenty of non-Shiites, maybe biting off way more than they can chew and things will finish falling apart for them back in Iran.
56 posted on 04/25/2003 11:42:09 AM PDT by FITZ
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Most ... don't want an Islamic republic. ...God wills it and things are likely to get ugly before they get any better.

The writer apparently believs God wants an Islamic republic. I suspect he is overplaying any Bush worship to help make his case.

I like Bush, but the Messiah???! The guy who said George was GOG and Barbara Bush was MAGOG made better sense!

58 posted on 04/25/2003 12:40:13 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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Pretty funny, the Shiites under the beast of Saddam can hardly wait to set up a repressive Islamic regime. The Iranians living under a repressive Islamic regime can hardly wait to get out from under it.
73 posted on 04/25/2003 2:32:25 PM PDT by aruanan
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bump
78 posted on 04/25/2003 2:58:45 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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The hold on state power by the mullahs in Iran is by no means secure. For them to be trying to influence the Shi'ite
"explosion" in Iran, instigate or support it, or try to export their influence there would be equivalent to America
in 1861, on the eve of Civil War, entertaining the notion that
we should start a space program.
80 posted on 04/25/2003 3:02:10 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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NEWSFLASH: It's even better than we thought! The Messiah in Shia Islam IS A RELIGIOUS LEADER who apparently never dies:

The Twelfth Imam is believed to have been only five years old when he became Imam in 874 on the death of his father. Because his followers feared he might be assassinated, the Twelfth Imam was hidden from public view and was seen only by a few of his closest deputies. Sunnis claim that he never existed, or that he died while still a child. Shia believe that the Twelfth Imam never died, but disappeared in about 939. Since then, the greater occultation of the Twelfth Imam has been in force, which will last until God commands the Twelfth Imam to manifest himself on earth again as the mahdi or messiah. Shia believe that during the occultation of the Twelfth Imam, he is spiritually present--some believe that he is materially present as well--and he is besought to reappear in various invocations and prayers. His name is mentioned in wedding invitations, and his birthday is one of the most jubilant of all Shia religious observances.

http://www.1uptravel.com/country-guide-study/kuwait/kuwait6.html

83 posted on 04/25/2003 3:32:21 PM PDT by dufekin (Peace HAS COME AT LONG LAST to the tortured people of Iraq!)
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The dominoes are starting to fall! Pray it works out for the good.
86 posted on 04/25/2003 6:33:10 PM PDT by potlatch
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