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To: Hodar
I WROTE: "Incest is incest. Child abuse is child abuse."

HODAR RESPONDED: "When the child is over 18, it is no longer child abuse."

I AM RESPONDING BACK: No argument from me.

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I WROTE: "And sodomy is a (the?) leading source of AIDS."

HODAR RESPONDED: "Not true for South Africa. The predominate carriers of AIDS are spread through normal, consentual heterosexual relations."

I AM RESPONDING BACK: Are we talking about South Africa now? I thought we were talking about sex (and other activities within one's home) and the alleged "right to privacy" in the United States.

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I WROTE: "If we CAN'T outlaw certain acts---EVEN IF they take place "in the privacy of your own home"---then what prevents ANY activity being done "in the privacy of your own home" from being made illegal? Such activities as murder, euthanasia, abortion (even by a non-licensed provider), infanticide, computer hacking, embezzlement via computer, etc. could ALL be legal if done "in the privacy of your own home."

HODAR RESPONDED: "Please, common sence is such a rarity today. Concentual means that all parties agree to this activity. Murder usually involves an unwilling partner. There is a big difference between where you place Mr. Winky, and killing somone, vandalizing, and stealing. At least there is a big difference to me."

I AM RESPONDING: "Since you bring up "consensual," would you AGREE then that ABORTION is NOT a "consensual" agreement between the mother and child, but a UNILATERAL decision by the mother to eliminate someone ELSE's OWN body and life? Therefore, by YOUR OWN definition, ABORTION IS MURDER!

I AM ADDING: And what about euthanasia? Kevorkian gets the victims' distressed consenting permission to kill them.

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HODAR WROTE: "Is your life so perfect, that you have the capability, wisdom, intelligence to dictate how other people live their lives too? Personally, I think not."

I AM RESPONDING: "Actually, I have a lot of capability, wisdom and intelligence, but being a Christian, no, I'm not perfect---just forgiven."

145 posted on 04/24/2003 12:57:17 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: Concerned
"And sodomy is a (the?) leading source of AIDS."

I merely pointed out the falacy of your statement. How a virus spreads does not change with geographic location. In this case, your assertion is simply wrong.

Therefore, by YOUR OWN definition, ABORTION IS MURDER!

Wow, do you have to take a running jump to make a logic leap like that? My assertion remains 'what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is none of your business". Would you please now derive a Unified Field Theory from that statement, as it has as much to do with physics as it does abortion.

"Actually, I have a lot of capability, wisdom and intelligence, but being a Christian, no, I'm not perfect---just forgiven."

And having faith is a fine thing. However, I sincerely doubt my faith is the same as yours. I would not dream of being arrogant enough to inflict my beliefs upon you, especially in the privacy of your home. Why do you feel that you have the rights to impose yours on the population at large?

152 posted on 04/24/2003 1:17:13 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Concerned
"HODAR RESPONDED: "Please, common sence is such a rarity today. Concentual means that all parties agree to this activity. Murder usually involves an unwilling partner."

Murder *usually* involves that. Would Hodar support making it legal for a sadist to kill a masochist "in the privacy of their own home?"

After all, such a scenario meets the criteria of consent and of privacy. And, as usual, the progressives have no answer.

165 posted on 04/24/2003 7:39:36 PM PDT by Reactionary
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