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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - 24 APR 03/Day 36 - LIVE THREAD***
24 APR 03 | An.American.Expatriate

Posted on 04/23/2003 9:05:41 PM PDT by Mo1

Operation Iraqi Freedom

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Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Pitcairn Island-----think "Mutiny on the Bounty".

It was paradise to those guys.
581 posted on 04/24/2003 5:15:45 PM PDT by Timeout ("They have not led. We will."---George W. Bush, 2000 GOP convention)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
How about in the Artic.
582 posted on 04/24/2003 5:23:55 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: Timeout
I can understand why. They went a little barmy, though, didn't they, murdered each other? Only "John Adams" of the originals survived...and a number of Tahitian women and their children. Joined later by a scholar and and a clergyman...a Mormon? There's a sequel waiting to be made.
583 posted on 04/24/2003 5:24:24 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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To: LauraJean
Artic, O.k.! We'll have to take on the enviral terrorists, but I'm in the mood these days, how 'bout you?
584 posted on 04/24/2003 5:25:44 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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To: LauraJean
O'Reilly came half cocked on that one. Maybe he can try again. Mr. Brill seemed to be afraid or something is wrong there.
585 posted on 04/24/2003 5:26:29 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: LauraJean
When we see more of THESE, the president can declare victory:


Capt. Dan King, right, with the 336th Fighter Squadron, 4th Fighter Wing, greets his son Nate at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, N.C., Wednesday after returning from participating in Operation Iraqi Freedom. (AP Photo/Bob Jordan)

586 posted on 04/24/2003 5:26:58 PM PDT by Timeout ("They have not led. We will."---George W. Bush, 2000 GOP convention)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
No,but the resemblance was striking!
587 posted on 04/24/2003 5:27:42 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The real Pitcairn was used in the Marlon Brandon filming of Mutiny on bounty. It is beautiful.. If you haven't seen the movie ... it isn't bad & the music is enjoyable

Marlon Brando had as his wife the native woman who played his love interest in the movie. she was very beautiful & the mother of the two children...I believe they maintained their home together there - even though he maintained residence in US
588 posted on 04/24/2003 5:28:04 PM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: Kadric
Here's the ideal place:

Agattu Island (uh-GAH-too) (18 mi/29 km long, 4 mi/6.4 km–9 mi/14.5 km wide), Near Islands., Aleutian Islands., SW Alaska, 20 mi/32 km SE of Attu Isl.; 52°26'N 173°34'E. Rises to 2,075 ft/632 m. Uninhabited, mountainous, treeless and very cold
589 posted on 04/24/2003 5:31:47 PM PDT by 76834
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I was always of the impression that the mutineers lived out their natural lives on Pitcairn Island. I hadn't heard they murdered one another.



590 posted on 04/24/2003 5:33:09 PM PDT by Timeout ("They have not led. We will."---George W. Bush, 2000 GOP convention)
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To: 76834
It won't work since it is part of a state, which is why we are using Gitmo it's not USA territory but leased from Cuba.

Requirements
Non USA territory,
Isolated,
No Resources,
Little land suitable for food production,
591 posted on 04/24/2003 5:39:37 PM PDT by Kadric
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To: Kadric
Oh well........
Worth a try
592 posted on 04/24/2003 5:41:51 PM PDT by 76834
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I have a better idea the enviral terrorists can join them in the Artic. However I don't think we should let them have any evil internal combustion machines. Maybe just a windmill to get some energy.
593 posted on 04/24/2003 5:45:25 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Do you think it really was Saddam incognito???????

LOL, who actually knows who the real Saddam is. Probably not even his wives and mistresses. I am sure the real Saddam has killed or had someone to kill some of his impostures for sleeping with or trying to sleep with his mistresses. You know the man is going to be a man thing when it comes to the cat rules, makes men do things they would never do before. Even risk their lives.

However the pictures of who they actually say is a slightly younger Saddam, I noticed that in his chin there is a slightly protrudiing oval shape impression which this guy did not have. But I did think that this guy could have been the older guy with the super bifocals that gave the speech to the Iraqi regime after the first bombing.

If this guy was not one of the imposter, then he is related to Saddam. But then he could have been Saddam. Do you know, out of all the Saddams that you have visualized which one is the real Saddam? It has been reported that Saddam had not been seen by the Iraqi people in two years prior to the war. They don't know who the real Saddam is. For all we know Saddam could have died 2 years ago. Did Dan Rather really interview the real Saddam? Are there pictures available of the Dan Rather interview? I guess I'll have to check and see

594 posted on 04/24/2003 5:57:33 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Timeout
Just back.

According to a really old Colliers Encyclopedia:

The island was chosen in 1790 as a refuge by 9 of the mutineers of the Bounty, who burned the ship on arrival....The English sailors brought with them from Tahiti six Polynesian men and eleven women. Twenty years later only one of the mutineers, John Adams, remained; all the rest had died, most of them by violence*. Adams ruled as a patriarch over the remaining Tahitian women and the offspring of the group, 35 persons in all.

*It could have been one nutty guy committing mass-murder, I guess.

595 posted on 04/24/2003 6:02:10 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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To: DollyCali
Thanks, Dolly. I'll watch for the Brando movie. He liked islands, didn't he...Apocolypse Now, Island of Dr. Moreau, Teahouse of the August Moon...? (^:

Watching Hannity and Colmes cover this war is painful...the two don't bother to study, yet continue to tell our awesome military leaders how to run the war. Grrr!

We laid out 8 objectives in this war, the Generals and SOD have stated our objectives repeatedly. They've been straightforward, honest and very accessible....and any pundit claiming not to understand why we're fighting or what we're attempting to do, while lecturing those in charge...has no business covering this war, imho.

596 posted on 04/24/2003 6:12:54 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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597 posted on 04/24/2003 6:13:08 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: LauraJean
Maybe just a windmill.

Lol! That and two sticks to start a fire...but the cruelest punishment of all...NO moral high ground in sight. (^:

598 posted on 04/24/2003 6:21:04 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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(Back to war-related news)

 
by Staff Sgt. Kristina Barrett
457th Air Expeditionary Group Public Affairs

04/24/03 - OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM (AFPN) -- After dropping 3.2 million pounds of explosives and 9 million leaflets during 120 combat sorties, more than 1,000 airmen are packing up and going home from this forward-operating location.

The redeployment of the 457th Air Expeditionary Group began April 24 with approximately a dozen B-52 Stratofortress bombers leaving for Minot Air Force Base, N.D. The remaining airmen are closing up shop, preparing for the effort of getting people and equipment home.

"Our job here isn't finished even after the planes have left," said 1st Lt. Francisco Vega, the 457th AEG's munitions flight commander deployed from Minot. "We are ensuring we have accountability of all assets being sent back, because our attention to detail of munitions doesn't end after the last expenditure."

After the bulk of the airmen leave, a small group of services, communications and transportation troops will remain to do the final contingency wrap-up.

"The communications squadron has to close down all of the deployed computers, ensure all computer equipment is accounted for and put everything into storage," said Airman 1st Class Vashti Pearson, the 57th AEG's communications squadron network administration technician deployed from Barksdale AFB, La. "In addition, the infrastructure needs to be removed. This includes local area network connections, routers and cabling associated with all of the computers on the base."

"As the base enters its redeployment phase, services will play several roles that will be vital to this base being prepared for future operations, as well as taking care of the troops right up to the moment they leave," said 1st Lt. Chris Radziewiez, 457th AEG services flight commander deployed from Minot. "Once the airmen leave, the dining hall staff will 'mothball' the facility, the 'portakabins' will have to be cleaned and all the furniture will be palletized and stored."

Radziewiez's team deployed here approximately three weeks before the main deployment, and they will remain here for another three weeks.

During Operation Iraqi Freedom, B-52s flew airborne alert, strategic attack, interdiction and psychological operations missions during more than 1,600 flying hours. They released more than 2,700 individual weapons and dropped 70 percent of all leaflets for the operation, one of the largest in military history.

In addition, the Litening II pod was used for the first time in combat on a B-52 here. The pod allows the bomber to pick and chose targets in the battlefield, increasing the capability and effectiveness of the aircraft and the munitions.

"All of the parents back there should be proud of their sons and daughters for the job they did," said Col. Dan Charchian, 457th AEG commander. "It was truly an outstanding effort."


599 posted on 04/24/2003 6:23:02 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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Tent building 101 

Tent building 101

04/24/03 - OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM (AFPN) -- Airmen build themselves a home at Tallil Air Base in southern Iraq on April 24. The airmen, assigned to the 407th Expeditionary Services Squadron here, are (from left) Staff Sgt. Bill Hunter, Maj. Matt McCleskey and Airman 1st Class John Phillips. The "Tallil Tiger Tent Team" built 96 tents and are adding 80 more, including shower and latrine tents. Officials plan to build up to 400 tents here to house airmen in air-conditioned, powered living and working spaces. (U.S. Air Force photo by Maj. Jon Anderson)


600 posted on 04/24/2003 6:26:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Let's Roll" -Todd Beamer, 9-11-01. "I see happy!" free Iraqi man in Baghdad, 4-09-03.)
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