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Iraqi Shiites Fast Filling Power Vacuum
Associated Press ^ | 04-23-03

Posted on 04/23/2003 7:03:23 PM PDT by Brian S

Iraqi Shiites Are Fast Filling the Power Vacuum Left by the Ouster of Saddam Hussein

The Associated Press

KARBALA, Iraq April 23 — Iraqi Shiites are organizing local committees, doling out funds to pay salaries, collecting looted property and sending militias to secure hospitals and electric plants.

The Shiites are fast filling the power vacuum left by the ouster of Saddam Hussein and some fear their dominance of postwar Iraqi politics could lead to an Islamic theocracy like the one next door in Shiite-dominated Iran.

Long repressed under Saddam's Sunni-dominated government and representing 60 percent of Iraq's population of 24 million, the Shiites have divided their religious loyalties between at least three leaders. Yet their opposition to a prolonged U.S. presence on Iraqi soil appears uniform, and some look to Iran as a model.

"The Iranian experience proved to be successful until now and I hope Iraq will be the same," said Naji Abdel-Razzak, a 45-year-old civil servant in Karbala.

Added Kathem al-Nasiri, a cleric from the Hawza seminary in Karbala: "We want to establish an Islamic, Shiite state, the same as what happened in Iran" though he doubted the United States would permit that.

Thousands of Shiites demonstrated against the United States in Karbala on Wednesday, carrying banners with messages such as "No to America, no to Israel, yes to Islam." Their brethren recited the final prayers of a fervent religious pilgrimage that dramatized the potential for Shiite power in Iraq.

The pilgrimage to mourn the Prophet Muhammad's grandson was organized by a center of Shiite learning known as the Hawza al-Ilmiya the same organization that since Saddam's ouster has been sending out volunteers to guard banks, get power plants back on line and set up checkpoints.

Reports that Iran seeks to influence Iraqi Shiites are setting off alarms in Washington.

"We have concerns about this matter, about Iranian agents in Iraq," said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, responding to reports that Iranian-trained agents have crossed into southern Iraq to promote Shiite clerics and advance Iranian interests. "We've made our points clear to the Iranians."

After toppling Saddam's regime, the Bush administration is keen on setting up a broad-based, democratic government in Iraq with representation from Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds.

Paradoxically, however, instituting majority rule could bring theocracy, not democracy and one that's not necessarily friendly to U.S. interests.

Winning Shiite support is key to U.S. efforts to block the influence of Iran and there are signs this may be possible. Senior Shiite clerics have insisted they want to share power with Iraq's Sunnis and Kurds.

Iraqi Shiites are Arab, not Persian like their Iranian counterparts, and have a strong sense of Iraqi nationalism. During the Iran-Iraq war from 1980-88, they did not rise up against Saddam. Many Shiites oppose the idea of an Islamic state run by clerics, including Iraq's top cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali Hussein al-Sistani.

Iraq's largest Shiite group, the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, has its headquarters in Tehran, the Iranian capital.

The group's leader, Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, is still in Iran. But his brother, Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, who commands the group's armed wing, has come back to Iraq to pave the way for the ayatollah's return.

He told al-Jazeera television on Wednesday that the group opposes any foreign presence in Iraq. Its fighters the Badr Brigades are present around Iraq but have been ordered not to confront U.S. forces, Abdel Aziz al-Hakim told al-Jazeera television.

"We do not want any fighting ... as this would only harm the interests of the Iraqi people," he said.

Iranian political analyst Saeed Leylaz doubted Iran could have much say about its neighbor.

"Iran doesn't have the strategic ability to greatly influence the situation in Iraq or sway it in its own favor due to its own economic problems and lack of international or regional support for an Iranian project," he said.

Jay Garner, the retired U.S. general overseeing postwar reconstruction, told reporters in northern Iraq Wednesday that the Shiite demonstrations in Karbala and elsewhere are "the first part of democracy the right to disagree."

"I think the bulk of the Shia, the majority of the Shia, are very glad they are where they are right now. Two weeks ago they wouldn't have been able to demonstrate," he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: democracy; iraqifreedom; jaygarner; postwariraq; shia; turass

1 posted on 04/23/2003 7:03:23 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
"The Iranian experience proved to be successful until now and I hope Iraq will be the same," said Naji Abdel-Razzak

What planet does this goofball live on? The "Iranian Experience" (experiment?) is about to collapse. Any day now...any day.

2 posted on 04/23/2003 7:06:58 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: Brian S
Iranian Shit-ites are the ones doing the organizing. Anyone organizing rallies and councils must show proof of Iraqi citizenry.

Iran needs to be dealt with very soon, before they do too much damage in Iraq.

3 posted on 04/23/2003 7:07:12 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Brian S
Sorry AP, I believe the U.S. has filled the vacumn much faster. And we got big tanks and smart bombs, they got big mouths. Want to guess who's vision for Iraq's future is going to win?
4 posted on 04/23/2003 7:09:24 PM PDT by Russell Scott (When you ignore God's instruction, you end up in the Devil's destruction.)
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To: Captainpaintball
I agree 100%!!
5 posted on 04/23/2003 7:10:29 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!!)
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To: Brian S
As I said on another Thread.....................

After these religious services are over in a few days (we should dictate the time period with advice from moderate Imams) we should issue a wartime law:

Until further notice, all foreign nationals (particularly Iranians) will be considered guilty of sedition, conspiracy to riot and spying and will be shot on sight.

Take 'em out to a Persian Gulf vessel and perform the execution off the fan-tail.

When 500 to 1,000 Iranian agents turn up missing.....Oh well. "Can't you guys keep track of your operatives?"

I'm sure the Ayatollahs in Qom will get the message REAL fast.

6 posted on 04/23/2003 7:15:59 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (.........down on five...........)
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To: Empireoftheatom48
Okay...This is worrisome to me. What is Plan "B?"
7 posted on 04/23/2003 7:20:13 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Salvey
Let's do an end-run around all this anticipated political/religious power-grabbing, declare the South or North as "American Iraq" and invite any Iraqi who wants to come and live and do it our way. The area's gotta have oil wells, though.
8 posted on 04/23/2003 9:30:50 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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