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Korea: Russian Official Predicts 'Catastrophic' Events Within Days
smh.com.au ^ | April 24 2003 | AFP

Posted on 04/23/2003 10:48:05 AM PDT by Destro

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To: Destro
This official speak with a typical Russian reserve that their diplomats are known for. What's amazing is that he is so dispassionate even without drinking.
81 posted on 04/23/2003 12:28:49 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: kjam22
*LOL*
82 posted on 04/23/2003 12:29:45 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: Flurry
Increasing darkness followed by night.
83 posted on 04/23/2003 12:51:43 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Napoleon Solo
Crap this is scary! What after that?
84 posted on 04/23/2003 12:55:22 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Saddam's Hiding In Tikrit He's Eating Another Daisy)
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To: Nexus
Unfortunatley, I believe that's the only way we could hold them off. 1 million vs 30,000 - I don't like those odds.

South Korea has a 600,000 man army and much better training and equipment.

85 posted on 04/23/2003 12:56:09 PM PDT by holdmuhbeer
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To: cpdiii
They will not be overwhelmed. Before George Bush would let that happen North Korea would be hit with tacticle nukes.

Is the 7th still at Camp Casey? And how many are north of Freedon Bridge?

86 posted on 04/23/2003 1:01:44 PM PDT by Beenliedto (Class of '98)
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To: Destro
I feel much better after reading this:

http://www.nyu.edu/globalbeat/asia/Halloran111498.html

New Warplan Calls for Invasion of North Korea


By Richard Halloran
November 14, 1998


 
 
United States and South Korean military commanders are completing a new war plan intended not only to repel a North Korean invasion if hostilities erupt but to invade North Korea to demolish its armed forces, capture the capital at Pyongyang, and destroy the North Korean regime.
 
Said a senior U.S. official: "When we're done, they will not be able to mount any military activity of any kind. We will kill them all."
 
He said the combined forces of the U.S. and South Korea would abolish North Korea as a functioning state, end the rule of its leader, Kim Jong Il, and reorganize the country under South Korean control.
 
Before, U.S. and South Korean war plans called only for stopping North Korean invaders and throwing them back across the 4000 meter wide demilitarized zone that divides this peninsula. In 1994, for instance, war plans called for repelling North Korea when conflict nearly broke out over Pyongyang's effort to develop nuclear arms.
 
Officials here said the new war plan was being devised because North Korea's armed force of 1 million troops equipped with largely obsolete weapons is deteriorating by the day as the nation's economic disasters take their toll. American officials fear that North Korea, on the verge of collapse, might strike out in desperation. "They may figure 'use it or lose it,'" said an officer familiar with North Korea.
 
In addition, the Clinton Administration and the Congress appear to be losing confidence that North Korea will abide by the 1994 Agreed Framework that averted hostilities and supposedly halted the North Korean nuclear program. An unnamed senior Administration official was quoted in Washington on Nov. 10 as saying the U.S. was prepared to walk away from the agreement unless Pyongyang could show that it was not developing nuclear weapons at a new underground site.
 
President Clinton is scheduled to discuss U.S-South Korean strategy for dealing with North Korea with President Kim Dae Jung of South Korea here on Nov. 21-22 if the threat of conflict with Iraq does not alter the U.S. President's trip. The President may thus be confronted with decisions on the two regional contingencies for which his Administration has instructed the Pentagon to prepare.
 
U.S. officials, however, declined to say whether the President would be apprised specifically of the new war plan while he is in Seoul; it must be presented to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington and the Ministry of Defense here for approval before it goes into effect. That was expected shortly.
 
The new plan calls for a deliberate campaign to crush North Korean armed forces and government in what an official called "defeating them in detail." That means every gun and tank emplacement along the DMZ, ammunition and supply depot, bridge and crossroads, resupply and reinforcement route, air field and naval facility, commando base, headquarters and command post, and communications node, plus munitions factories, electric power grids, and government buildings in Pyongyang are on target lists.
 
The plan is three dimensional in breadth, depth, and time. It pinpoints targets north of the 151 mile long DMZ, identifies other targets back to Pyongyang and beyond, and calls for phases: Pre-North Korean attack, stopping the initial assault, regrouping for a counter-attack, and full scale invasion of North Korea to seize Pyongyang.
 
A target of high priority would be the North Korean artillery corps deployed north of the DMZ where it could fire due south toward Seoul. Many of North Korea's 10,600 artillery pieces are old and have limited range but about 200 multiple rocket launchers of 240 millimeters could hit Seoul to inflict severe damage. They are at the top of the target list.
 
Much of that artillery is parked in underground shelters that have been spotted by U.S. intelligence satellites and aircraft. Those guns must be pulled out to fire and thus become vulnerable. They can also be neutralized by bombing exits before they emerge. "We can bury them," said a military planner.
 
South Korean forces of 672,000 troops would bear the brunt of the ground war and part of the air operations but would be backed by 35,700 American troops in Korea and another 41,300 in Japan, mostly on the island of Okinawa. The balance of air and naval power would be American.
 
North Korean targets would be attacked by U.S. B-1 and B-52 bombers, which can fly over North Korea from the U.S. within 24 hours. More U.S. airpower would come from U.S. bases in South Korea and Japan and from the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, which is based in Japan along with other U.S. warships. U.S. submarines armed with cruise missiles regularly patrol off North Korean coasts and more could arrive from Pearl Harbor in Hawaii within five days.
 
The war plan envisions the possibility of amphibious assaults into North Korea by U.S. Marines into the narrow waist of North Korea to cut the country in two. "The entire resources of the U.S. Marine Corps would flow here," said a U.S. official, referring to the Marine division on Okinawa, another in California, and the third in North Carolina. The U.S. broke North Korean and Chinese forces with an amphibious landing at the port of Inchon, west of Seoul, during the Korean War of 1950-53.
 
Most U.S. reinforcements would pass through Japan, particularly Okinawa, which would undoubtedly cause political problems in that pacifist nation despite its alliance with the U.S. Those operations would test new U.S.-Japan defense guidelines that require Japan to provide logistic support in the event of conflict in that region.
 
Even without the defense guidelines, the U.S. has the right to move troops, weapons, and supplies through Japan to Korea because American forces are posted here under a United Nations flag. A small and little known unit, the UN Rear Command, which has been at Camp Zama, southwest of Tokyo, since the Korean War, provides the legal and diplomatic cover for those movements.
 
President Clinton is scheduled to discuss security issues with Japanese Prime Minister Keizo Obuchi in Tokyo before going to Seoul.
 
China would also protest the plan, if executed, because it is an ally of North Korea and wants to see the regime survive because it does not want to see a South Korean army along its Manchurian border at the Yalu River.
 
A critical issue to the success of the new war plan is strategic warning in which the U.S. and South Korea pick up unambiguous signs that North Korea is preparing to attack. That warning time has been shortened from about ten days to about three days in recent years as North Korea has sought to cover its military movements. Instead of radio traffic, for instance, North Korean communications have shifted to land lines of fiber optics that are much harder to intercept.
 
The new plan provides for preemptive strikes that would seek to stun key North Korean units, particularly long range artillery and bombers, before they could go into action. Executing that plan, however, would require a political decision by both the U.S. and South Korean presidents that would depend on the situation at the time.
 
Among other provisions of the new plan are coping with North Korean chemical weapons, of which they have a large supply and may use in desperation; combating North Korean commandos, of which they have 100,000 highly trained; and handling tens or hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees.
 
Officials here declined to say whether the U.S. and South Korea would seek to deter North Korea by presenting the outlines of the plan to North Korea in what are known as the "general officer talks" in Panmunjom, site of truce meetings since the end of the Korean War in 1953.
 
Those talks were initiated by North Korea in an attempt to establish a direct dialogue between the North Korean army and the U.S. command here but are seen by U.S. officials as a means for crisis management. Four meetings have taken place since June but have been concerned with protests over a North Korean submarine incursion.
87 posted on 04/23/2003 1:02:57 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: Beck_isright
The Russians were spot on in Iraq and advised Saadam to quit because all scenarios pointed to an American win. I read AND remember.
88 posted on 04/23/2003 1:03:51 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Quix
If San Francisco went up in a mushroom cloud, how would we know whether it was the North Koreans or the Wrath of God?
89 posted on 04/23/2003 1:11:34 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Nexus
Do we have "dug in" positions the complete way across the DMZ? " I doubt it, and I can't speak for the South Korean forces, but I bet it would take a lot more than a 3 to 1 ratio to successfully attack US forces wether we are dug in or not. Our weapons are more accurate and more lethal.
90 posted on 04/23/2003 1:12:50 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: johnb838
he he!
91 posted on 04/23/2003 1:12:50 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: johnb838
If San Francisco went up in a mushroom cloud, how would we know whether it was the North Koreans or the Wrath of God?

It would be both.

92 posted on 04/23/2003 1:13:29 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Beenliedto
Testicle Nukes! That sounds SYRIAS!
93 posted on 04/23/2003 1:15:51 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Nexus
How did a war plan like this get developed during the Clinton administration?
94 posted on 04/23/2003 1:38:13 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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To: Lee Heggy
I think this song is ripe for a parody
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00006LA4I001008/402-6371145-2965723
95 posted on 04/23/2003 1:48:05 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
I read on a thread here months ago that Clinton was actually on the verge of ordering an attack on NK's nuclear facilities. Don't recall what dissuaded him... (golf?)
96 posted on 04/23/2003 1:57:08 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: caa26
"If Kim Jong-il sets off a nuke or launches a missile strike on Japan, he'll meet Saddam's fate in about 24 hours time. "

Sitting here in Alaska, you will understand if I'm less than concerned about Japan.....
97 posted on 04/23/2003 2:00:06 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Mr. Mojo
LOL
98 posted on 04/23/2003 2:02:34 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Good point about Hillary and don't forget her sidekick Bill!

If N. Korea is stupid enough to do something, then they will be wiped out! We didn't keep those F-117's in S. Korea after their joint exercise for nothing.

Not to mention the USS Kittyhawk and its carrier group are returning to waters off Japan!

99 posted on 04/23/2003 2:05:35 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: Nexus
Said a senior U.S. official: "When we're done, they will not be able to mount any military activity of any kind. We will kill them all."

I love it!

100 posted on 04/23/2003 2:10:21 PM PDT by TheConservator (Veni, vidi, vici!--G. W. "Julius" Bush.)
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