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1 posted on 04/23/2003 10:15:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Sars, which kills in 4% of cases.

I read somewhere today that the kill rate is actually up to 5.9%. Yikes.

2 posted on 04/23/2003 10:20:38 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Dog Gone
However, Canadian scientists have carried out hundreds of tests on samples from patients with suspected or probable cases of Sars in Canada.

They found only 40% of people carried the new strain of coronavirus.

By coincidence, about 40% of the total "cases" in Canada are listed as probable. So many of those who tested negative may not be SARS cases at all. Others may be at too early a stage for the virus to be detected.

In addition they found evidence of the strain in healthy people enlisted as "controls" for the experiment.

I wish we had more info on the number and identity of who these "controls' were and when the samples were taken.

3 posted on 04/23/2003 10:26:47 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Dog Gone
Four weeks ago SARS research was guesswork in white coats -- and now it looks as if nothing's changed. :-/
5 posted on 04/23/2003 10:30:00 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Dog Gone
I saw on FOX today that Japan is using heat-sensing devices in airports to look for people with high fevers.

My suggestion: shut down the Canadian border and stop all flights from Asia.

In the New World Order, we either react fast or die.

13 posted on 04/23/2003 10:46:56 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Dog Gone
Do you remember this 'case' when veterinary authorities slaughtered 1.6 million chickens?

Avian Influenza Virus in Humans in Hong Kong

In May 1997, a 3-year-old boy in Hong Kong contracted an influenzalike illness, was treated with salicylates, and died 12 days later with complications consistent with Reye syndrome.

Laboratory diagnosis included the isolation in cell culture of a virus that was identified locally as influenza type A but could not be further characterized with reagents distributed for diagnosis of human influenza viruses. By August, further investigation with serologic and molecular techniques in the Netherlands (9, 20, 21) and in the United States (22) had confirmed that the isolate was A/Hong Kong/156/97 (H5N1), which was very closely related to isolate A/Chicken/Hong Kong/258/97 (H5N1).

The latter virus was considered representative of those responsible for severe outbreaks of disease on three rural chicken farms in Hong Kong during March 1997, during which several thousand chickens had died. Molecular analysis of the viral hemagglutinins showed a proteolytic cleavage site of the type found in highly pathogenic avian influenza viruses.

Because no further cases of human infection with H5 viruses were seen in Hong Kong during the summer, the case in May was considered an isolated incident, with little or no person-to-person spread. However, surveillance for influenza was increased, and local capability was established to test for H5 subtype among human patients.

As summarized on their Internet disease surveillance site, the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Department of Health (http://www.info.gov.hk/dh/diseases/flu_1997.htm) detected new cases of human illness caused by H5 virus during November 1997.

By late December, the total number of confirmed new cases had climbed to 17, of which 5 were fatal (one in a 13-year-old child and four in adults, 25, 34, 54, and 60 years of age). Including the fatal index case in May, the case-fatality rates were 18% in children and 57% in adults older than 17 years.

Investigation of the circumstances surrounding each case was undertaken by the local authorities with assistance from the World Health Organization Collaborating Centers in the United States and Japan. Except for one doubtful unconfirmed case, all illnesses or laboratory evidence of infection was in patients who had been near live chickens (e.g., in market places) in the days before onset of illness, which suggests direct transmission of virus from chicken to human rather than person-to-person spread.

On December 28, 1997, veterinary authorities began to slaughter all (1.6 million) chickens present in wholesale facilities or vendors within Hong Kong, and importation of chickens from neighboring areas was stopped. Subsequently, no more human cases caused by avian influenza virus were detected. Because these cases occurred at the beginning of the usual influenza season in Hong Kong, public health officials were concerned that human strains might cocirculate with the avian influenza to generate human and avian reassortant viruses with capacity for efficient person-to-person spread.

From:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no2/snacken.htm

16 posted on 04/23/2003 10:54:02 AM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: Dog Gone
Somehow, this reminds me of the early days of the AIDS problem. No one knew exactly what was causing it and speculation was abundant. Trains, planes, hospitals, crowded apartment buildings seem to be where one is at high risk of contracting it: Prolonged exposure in high density environments? Could how long one is exposed to the virus (or whatever) be as much a factor as the virus itself? Avoid prolonged stays in high density areas as much as possible to minimize risk maybe?
23 posted on 04/23/2003 11:10:35 AM PDT by templar
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To: Dog Gone
Whatever happened to the Chinese theory that it was somehow related to chlamydia?

Here is a related thread from April 6th.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886078/posts
27 posted on 04/23/2003 11:18:24 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Allan
This will interest you.
31 posted on 04/23/2003 11:47:27 AM PDT by keri
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To: Dog Gone; keri; Mitchell
I am not a 'health care worker'
but I would assume
isolation of communicable diseases is one of the basic things
that one first is taught.

Starting with ONE patient at Scarborough hospital
they managed to infect AT LEAST FIVE other hospitals
in Toronto
and surrounding suburbs
by transporting infected patients
distances as great as 30 miles.

GOOD WORK TORONTO!

Your achievement at spreading this disease is unequalled anywhere else in the world
(except, perhaps, Peking)

38 posted on 04/23/2003 4:24:35 PM PDT by Allan
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To: Dog Gone
So far, more than 4,000 people worldwide have fallen ill with Sars,

I did a quick look at the statistics (it was either last night or earlier today) - and about half of those had also recovered!

41 posted on 04/23/2003 5:48:15 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: Dog Gone
Doubt? How can there be any doubt? Ever since the government announced AIDS and cure which they haven't found for over 20 years, how can anyone be in doubt?

THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END AND YOUR ALL GONNA DIE!


SARS: This is basically pneumonia. It’s been reported that in the US, with a population of 280 million, there are about 50,000 deaths each year from pneumonia. That is 137 deaths per day. The world population of 6 billion would translate into 2,932 deaths per day from pneumonia. Now let me see, SARS is an epidemic, a pandemic, holly-cow, it's killing everyone. SARS has killed many less that 1,000 people in a month. And people all over the world are running around with surgical mask over their faces! As the now dead, Bill Cooper used to say these people are “Sheep-people”. This is how you know you are being feed BS!

Epidemic – Pandemic: During the Influenza (Pneumonia) Epidemic of 1918-19 over 30 million died world wide, that’s 41,667 deaths per day. With a world population of about 4.5 billion versus 6 billion today that would mean a daily death toll of 55,556 today.

Now that’s what should be called an epidemic.

51 posted on 04/23/2003 7:56:41 PM PDT by ido_now
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