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"You have to come to Trenton. You have to reward your friends and punish your enemies. You have to tell us why this is right. You have to agitate and aggravate and spend money to be a force."

Sounds like a call to arms to me.  However, as much bravado as State Senator Adler wants to invoke, it wont pass the legislature since they wont want to really deal with it.  Where it will pass is with the same Christie Whitman (R) appointed Supreme Court that enabled Lautenberg to get on the Democratic ticket for Senator after the date had passed.

"The Supremos" will force yet another decision upon the people of New Jersey and the politicians will do nothing to stop them.

1 posted on 04/23/2003 7:29:20 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
I would hazard a guess the corrupt Sopranos will force gay marriage upon New Jerseyans. The law means nothing to the Trenton Seven.
2 posted on 04/23/2003 7:32:09 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Incorrigible
He puts New Jersey at or near the top of the list of states where the courts are likely to recognize gay marriage.

Correction -- New Jersey is at or near the top of the list of states where the courts are likely to recognize anything that even the most irrational, fouled-up person could possibly come up with, regardless of whether it has any basis in law.

3 posted on 04/23/2003 7:34:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Incorrigible
The whole topic of gay marriage gives me a big,fat headache.
4 posted on 04/23/2003 7:34:34 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Incorrigible; goldstategop; Alberta's Child
The MA Supreme Court is hearing a similiar case as the one in NJ. First VT and now MA and NJ. What is it with the Northeast?
5 posted on 04/23/2003 7:43:15 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Incorrigible
Maybe the way to deal with the fudge packers is to legalize gay marriage, and then start enforcing the laws against fornication, adultery, bigamy, polygamy, etc. Most of what's dangerous about gays is their lifestyle: the promiscous sex, the recruiting by chickenhawks, etc. Even if you made queer marriage legal, most of those behaviors might still be prohibited under current law in many jurisdictions.

I have known a lot of gays over the past 40 years, coming from San Francisco, and have seen both the ruinous effects of the lifestyle and a few committed homosexual couples who minded their own business and went about normal lives, save for what they did in private.

I am a lot less troubled by the latter than the former. Of course, this would never work, but it's an intriguing thought to cut into their set of arguments and focus on behavior.

10 posted on 04/23/2003 7:58:45 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Mesopotamia Delenda Est)
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To: Incorrigible
Lawyers for the couples are arguing that barring same-sex couples from marrying violates the equal protection clause of the state constitution.
If the law says that each citizen has the right to marry a person of the opposite sex -- or conversely, that no citzen has the right to marry a person of the same sex -- then I don't see where there's an equal protection violation.

I'm encouraged by the increasing desperation of the arguments.

12 posted on 04/23/2003 8:04:24 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Incorrigible
Why Judaism Rejected Homosexuality
31 posted on 04/23/2003 8:49:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Incorrigible
This issue will be welcomed with open arms by our wrist dangling Governor, Jim McGreedy!
41 posted on 04/23/2003 9:09:26 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: ELS
ping
60 posted on 04/23/2003 9:59:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Incorrigible
"The Supremos" will force yet another decision upon the people of New Jersey and the politicians will do nothing to stop them.

Well at least they got their infamous Boy Scouts decision thrown back at them by SCOTUS.

Maybe the same will happen with this.

69 posted on 04/23/2003 10:57:26 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Incorrigible
"Mark Lewis, who along with his partner of 12 years, Dennis Winslow, are two of the plaintiffs in the case. As Episcopal ministers, they perform marriages for other couples but are themselves denied that legal document, he said at the town meeting.

Two other plaintiffs, Karen Nicholson-McFadden, and her partner, Marcye Nicholson-McFadden, tearfully described the thicket of paperwork they must navigate to make sure their young children have medical coverage. Each woman has conceived a child through artificial insemination, but their children do hot have all the same legal rights of a family. For example, the woman who is not biologically related to the child cannot claim the child on health insurance until after going through an adoption.

A nurse and mother of five, Marilyn Maneely, 53, and her partner for the last 12 years, Diane Marini, are also part of the lawsuit.

Marini said her 86-year-old mother has witnessed women get the right to vote in 1920, the desegregation of schools in 1954 and the passage of Title 9, which gave women greater opportunities in sports, in 1972.

"I am hoping during her lifetime, she'll see marriage for gay couples," said Marini. "When New Jersey passes, this we'll all have large weddings," Marini said. "

This whole thing just makes me sick. I think the argument is simply that marriage BY DEFINITION is a union between a mand and a woman. Are we going to throw out 2000 years of morality because we are now so 'enlightened'?

73 posted on 04/23/2003 12:45:34 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Bump for an interesting article.
75 posted on 04/23/2003 5:42:58 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Incorrigible
New Jersey is a cesspool.
Owned and operated by the education mafia and the trial lawyers, it is the perfect state for the Democrats to push for gay marriage, teenage barnyard sex, fisting for toddlers, and anything else that comes to mind.
The "culture war" is over in New Jersey. The Democrats won.
89 posted on 04/23/2003 7:44:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Incorrigible
My Big Fat Gay? Wedding
115 posted on 04/24/2003 1:22:21 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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