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Linux 'Just Works' For Me (or, how I came to love Red Hat and Gnome)
OSNews ^ | 2003-04-22 | Mike Reed

Posted on 04/23/2003 6:43:45 AM PDT by snooker

I keep reading all these tales of woe of people having bad experiences with Linux. Sure, I've had my own bad experiences, across many an OS, but just lately I've been running a Red Hat Linux 9 desktop full-time at home and have yet to run into any major issue. What follows is an overview of my personal experiences with Linux. But first, a bit about me.

Linux Just Works, Part I Editorial Notice: All opinions are those of the author and not necessarily those of osnews.com

I've been involved with computers since my Dad brought home an Atari 400. That must have been around 1979 and I would have been eight years old. It's now 2003 and I earn my living from IT, architecting and supporting a datacentre full of wintel servers. I work with Windows enough to love it and loathe it in generally equal amounts.

My first playful encounter with Linux was in 1999, I think it was Red Hat Linux 5.x. I got as far as installing it on some old and abhorrent IBM PS2 486 complete with MCA architecture and 16/4 token ring. After configuring network connectivity and using Netscape for a bit I git very bored and began tinkering. Naturally I broke something and (shock!) Linux crashed, dead. Nothing for it but a hard reboot. This was before Linux used a journalled filesystem and the box never recovered. It took me a long time to forgive Linux for that.

In 2000 I was a well paid IT contractor and I came across a security consultant who ran Windows2000 atop Red Hat Linux 6.2 using VMware workstation. I was impressed, albeit confounded by the seemingly pointlessness of the exercise. Until I saw tools like Nmap, Ethereal, Etherape and Samba. Tools like that could cost a fortune on the Windows platform, certainly at that time. I wanted to know more about Linux. I still considered myself an utter newbie and began researching for the easiest to use distro. I considered at the time that Red Hat Linux was for experts so it didn't really get a look in. All reviews and personal opinions seemed to point to Mandrake 7. I don't remember using it for long - just long enough to break it through my own mix of exploration and stupidity. It's very true that a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing!

Another contract later and in 2001 I kept reading great press about SuSE 7.1 and how it was a 'Windows Killer'. Well, if nothing else that must mean it'll be easy for a dumbass like me to get it up and running. And it had ReiserFS! Hurrah! I began running my business on SuSE/KDE - webserver, mailserver, desktop (I used Smoothwall on my ADSL/USB connection). At client sites I would fire up VMware on my laptop (running at 500MHz) and boot into Windows for the daily chores while all the time trying to make the most of my SuSE Linux experience.

The pinnacle of my SuSE experience was 7.3 on that 500MHz laptop - Linux was still improving and I wanted to take those improvements onboard. When it came to buying my next laptop I chose based on Linux compatibility - mainly the graphics card. I opted for a 1GHz Dell Inspiron 4100 with a 16MB Radeon and a combo DVD/CD-R which I still use as my main desktop computer today. It came with XP and I kept a dual-boot system for gaming purposes. From SuSE 8.0 upwards I've found the distribution wanting. They left out the GLX packages meaning that 3D didn't work out of the box. SuSE 8.1 and 8.2 are still wanting - 8.1 had horrid and small fonts on my 1400x1050 display and neither ship with kernels that support my laptop APM fully. I'd also come to realise that, although it ships with a plethora of software, the Apt4rpm repositories were nowhere near as brimming as other popular distributions.

In the interim to all this usage of SuSE the IT contracting market slumped and I was forced to close my business and get a permie job (where I find myself today, a year later). Because I was so disappointed with the SuSE 8.x series I began to look elsewhere. For a while, Mandrake 9.0 was it. I'd discovered Apt4rpm and URPMI and excellent website resources to help get me going and bring back things to my desktop that Windows users take for granted - namely multimedia. The single best general Linux portal that caters for all 'consumer orientated' distros that I've found is PCLinuxOnline. It's a great starting point for anyone new to Linux, and EasyURPMI is a fantastic timesaver. Of course, a broadband connection is essential.

Through using URPMI and Apt4rpm/Synaptic I managed to uglify my desktop and break my RPM database. Well, I didn't (and rarely do) have time to fix stuff so I knew it was going to be a reinstall. Besides, I still had my XP install on the other partition so I had a working system one way or another. About this time Red Hat Linux released 8.0. Well, I figured I'd been using Mandrake long enough, and Mandrake was originally a KDE-biased fork of Red Hat Linux so how hard could Red Hat Linux be now? (I'd used Red Hat Linux 7.3 with Ximian desktop for a while but was frustrated with Gnome 1.4)

My first impressions of Red Hat Linux 8.0 were good. It installed flawlessly and KDE wasn't broken (although I do understand the KDE developer's point). My laptop would suspend and resume okay. It was trivial to install fonts (at last!) and there were other nice, polished, touches. A previous stint using Red Hat Linux 7.3 and Ximian Gnome had me yearning for that Gnome/Nautilus look. It's purely personal but I've always felt that Gnome has the edge aesthetically and KDE has the edge with functionality (Konqueror is awesome). Since I spend a lot of time staring at my computer desktop it should be as easy on the eye as possible. I could never get KDE to look 'arty' but I could never get Gnome to do what I wanted - it always seemed like things were half implemented (example - when setting file permissions with Nautilus it cannot be done recursively). My opinions had changed by the time Red Hat Linux 9 arrived.

I now run Red Hat Linux 9 and Gnome pretty much exclusively, and my WindowsXP partition is gone. Replaced by a virtual machine. I have learned that what you can't accomplish in the Gnome GUI is usually some sysadmin related task. I am forcing myself to use Bash more. I think this is a good thing, and in no way a step backwards. I can create an ISO image of a CD in one line. That's pretty amazing if you ask me. But more importantly, it's testament to underlying philosophies and concepts that are some 40 years old. While Windows struggles to become a true multiuser environment (trust me, it's struggling - I administer WTS/Citrix farms) everything is already there in Linux. Linux has a solid foundation. Windows has its foundations in 'New Technology' which by Bill Gates own admission, NT was to become "more Unix than Unix". If you ask me, Windows has its foundations in mergers, acquisitions and marketing; its underlying philosophy seems to be 'on error resume next'.

So why am I so pleased with Red Hat Linux 9? Surely there must be something I miss? Let's take stock, from basics upwards:

Q: How do I browse the web and read my email? A: Mozilla. It looks georgeous in Red Hat Linux 9.

Q: What about typing a letter, writing my latest screenplay or doing some spreadsheet sums? A: OpenOfficeOrg is good enough for me. Again, well integrated into Red Hat Linux 9 (though still takes a while to fire up!)

Q: I hate VI and EMACS with a passion - how do I edit text files from the console? A: Joe is my current favourite since it doesn't wrap lines by default and has useful help built-in

Q: How do I ensure my PC clock is telling the right time? A: Easy! Enable NTP via the Gnome clock applet and use one of the preconfigured Red Hat Linux NTP servers. Nice touch.

Q: How do I burn a data CD? A: Type burn:/// into Nautilus (if it doesn't do it for you when you insert a blank CD) and drag in your data

Q: How do I create an ISO image of a CD? (great for attaching to virtual machines!) A: In Bash, for example, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=someiso.iso

Q: How do I administer those Microsoft Windows Terminal servers (RDP)? A: rdesktop someservername

Q: How do I run those Citrix published applications (ICA)? A: Citrix provide a native ICA client

Q: What about administering non-TS wintel boxes? A: VNC !!

Q: My two year old daughter broke my CDROM eject button - now what to do!? A: eject /dev/cdrom

Q: What about multimeda? DVD, MP3, AVI, ASF, WMA, MOV ... A: There is MPlayer and associated win32 codecs, and an MP3 plugin for XMMS.

Q: And my digital camera? A: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera - although your actual sda device and mountpoint may vary, and your camera must be a compatible USB mass storage device (most modern ones are)

Q: Games! I need more games! Are there any good games for Linux? A: Amongst my personal favourites are Quake2, Frozen Bubble, Freedroid and Gxmame (a front end to Mame and all the roms I have downloaded from my collection of arcade machines ;-)

Okay, so far I haven't mentioned the 'killer app' that's going to keep me with Red Hat Linux for the forseeable future. Well, first and foremost I would probably have stuck with SuSE if I didn't get a broadband connection. But with my broadband I discovered the joys of downloading ISOs and testing various Linux distros and .... FreshRPMs. Here's how I quickly overcome my Red Hat Linux woes after a fresh install of Red Hat Linux 9 (I'm not clever enough to use anaconda yet ;-)

1. Download Apt4rpm for Red Hat Linux 9

2. Open a console and su root

3. rpm -Uvh apt*rpm

4. apt-get update

5. apt-get install synaptic

6. synaptic

7. Behold! Aladdin's cave!

Actually, there's a step I perform between 3 and 4, and that's to joe /etc/apt/sources.list and add the following lines:

### Dag Apt Repository for Red Hat 9

rpm http://apt.sw.be Red Hat Linux/9/en/i386 dag

#newrpms.sunsite.dk

rpm http://newrpms.sunsite.dk/apt/ Red Hat Linux/en/i386/9.0 newrpms

That ensures I can easily get hold of Freedroid.

Summary So I've succumbed to the corporate branding of Red Hat Linux? Well, yes (although frankly I detest Bluecurve and use ThinIce/Mist). If Linux is good enough for artists at ILM and throughout the Hollywood CGI effects industry then it's good enough for my everyday desktop use. Red Hat Linux gives me excellent hardware device support and a good balance of new and useful packages via Apt4rpm. Linux could be a Windows killer, it will likely be a proprietry *nix killer. It could just as easily become as successful as OS/2 Warp.

About the Author: I'm a 31 year old Datacentre Systems Architect and use Linux in conjunction with Citrix, Terminal Services and VMware. I've been known to play the odd game or two, too. In the last few days I've erased my Windows partition in favour of using Red Hat Linux 9 fulltime on my home computer.


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Good summary. Explains what can be done. I install RH9 as default. Hardware detection is great. I make a disk on one machine, put it in another, boot, and kudzu takes care of the rest. Easier than installing from CDs at client sites.
1 posted on 04/23/2003 6:43:45 AM PDT by snooker
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To: snooker
It could just as easily become as successful as OS/2 Warp.

Hmmm... ;0)

2 posted on 04/23/2003 6:54:16 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: add a slice of lemon for freshness.)
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To: snooker
Oh, I can do all that with Linux? wow- it only SEEMS 10 times as hard as any windows system...

Seriously- I am a computer software engineer- you dont have to convince me that Linux is technically superior- it just is not windows and if I have to do all the above mentioned stuff it will be a huge burden.
3 posted on 04/23/2003 6:55:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: *tech_index; ShadowAce
El Pingo.
4 posted on 04/23/2003 7:01:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Mr. Avuncular)
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To: Mr. K
When was the last time you tried linux? You might be surprised.
5 posted on 04/23/2003 7:06:27 AM PDT by snooker
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To: snooker
Those command lines are what will keep average PC users away from Linux; Linux may be a strong OS but people are used to pointing and clicking. When it becomes automatic, with the update support that Windows has, I'll consider the alternatives.
6 posted on 04/23/2003 7:30:30 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Mr. K
Seriously- I am a computer software engineer- you dont have to convince me that Linux is technically superior- it just is not windows and if I have to do all the above mentioned stuff it will be a huge burden.

You should give Knoppix 3.2 a try. It is free, requires no partition of its own and boots from CD to run in virtual RAM, autodetecting and configuring all your hardware on the fly.

I use it at work to download pictures from the digital camera because NT4 does not support USB.

It comes with OpenOffice 1.01 and thousands of other apps. It is a painfree way to dabble with Linux.

7 posted on 04/23/2003 7:37:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: snooker
One "killer app" that keeps me Windows-bound is Outlook. Is there any Linux app that manages email, calendar, contacts, and todo list that has the ability to synch with my Palm-OS handheld? And has a UI as slick as Outlook?
8 posted on 04/23/2003 7:45:26 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: snooker
No doubt Linux works and can do all of the things you say, but the vast majority of computers being sold still have a Windows operating system.

While some attribute Windows dominance in the market to Microsoft's "unfair" marketing tactics or that Bill Gates is in league with the devil, it really has a lot to do with basic economics. Most businesses have already invested in Windows operating systems, have their employees trained to use Windows and use software products designed to run on Windows. They would obviously be reluctant to make a change to something else given the cost of their current investment in Windows products even if these new products like Linux might offer some advantages. Marginal analysis shows the benefits simply would not out weight the cost.

Is Windows a superior product?--maybe not, but it was first and got established as the de facto standard. Until Linux or some other OS can deliver real cost savings to the business user that will offset the cost of converting from Windows, I don't see any real chance that this change will occur.

9 posted on 04/23/2003 7:47:21 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: mdmathis6
Believe me, in KDE and Gnome, you can point and click to your heart's content. And since the GUI is not an integral part of the OS, you don't have those nasty security issues that occur when the GUI is part of a monolithic kernel. Not to mention the fact that the level of flexibility and customization is absolutely phenomenal. You can even make KDE look like a Windows machine or a Mac if you so desire. Personally, I'd say that those who believe that the Linux OS is good for servers but not for desktops are pretty much clueless. Installation is generally pretty easy too - and getting better all of the time.
10 posted on 04/23/2003 7:51:24 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
you shoyuld switch from NT4 to windows 2000 - it is the single best OS Microsoft ever made.
11 posted on 04/23/2003 7:53:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: The Great RJ
One correction. Although Windows is the de-facto standard, it wasn't the first. I know of at least three GUI based machines which predated MS.
12 posted on 04/23/2003 7:53:49 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
oh- and I don't need to 'dabble' in Linux- I program in Linux AND windows every single day, so I know what I am talking about.

There is no way any Linux prosletyzer is going to convince me of what I already know- that Microsoft is hundreds of times easier and more productive environment to work in for everyday Joe's.


Sory Linux geeks, it is true. And I expect to be ROASTED and FLAMED for daring to speek ill of Linux- Linux users are so much like liberals it is not funny.
13 posted on 04/23/2003 7:57:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
P.S.S. I dont mean YOU are one of those Linux fanatcis- I am speaking to the crowd
14 posted on 04/23/2003 7:58:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: snooker
I use Linux every single day
15 posted on 04/23/2003 7:59:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: Mr. K
you shoyuld switch from NT4 to windows 2000 - it is the single best OS Microsoft ever made.

The issue is switching hundreds of computers to 2000. When we switch it will be to XP, though I consider XP to be undisguised spyware, phoning home to Redmond every time you do anything.

16 posted on 04/23/2003 8:05:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Mr. K
oh- and I don't need to 'dabble' in Linux- I program in Linux AND windows every single day, so I know what I am talking about.

You are so superior to us mere mortals. I am surprised you have even condescended to contact us from your throne on high.

17 posted on 04/23/2003 8:07:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: freedomcrusader
http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/evolution.shtml
is a Outlook substitute.


There are others.

I am in love with Mozilla for mail/web but I use a web based calendar to mesh with the office.


18 posted on 04/23/2003 8:10:29 AM PDT by Wisconsin
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To: The Great RJ
Until Linux or some other OS can deliver real cost savings to the business user that will offset the cost of converting from Windows, I don't see any real chance that this change will occur.

Well, the sysadmin costs are about the same. So other costs are license, maintenance, and productivity. There are businesses which have converted over to Linux because there are no license costs. On a per machine basis this can add up. Where has this occurred? For example, businesses that have POS (point of sale) systems (remember cash registers?) may choose to run Linux rather than MS. And once they make that decision, they may choose to support only a single OS so covert their business users (and other back end systems) to Linux.

Is this for everyone? Hardly. MS will remain the business system of choice for paper pushing office users for quite a while. But that fact is that Linux can and does provide "real cost savings" in certain business environments.

19 posted on 04/23/2003 8:11:51 AM PDT by dark_lord
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
"Q: How do I create an ISO image of a CD? (great for attaching to virtual machines!) A: In Bash, for example, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=someiso.iso"


This is an example of what I was talking about. People are going to get lost with the plethora of command lines that Linux still requires to make its app's work.

20 posted on 04/23/2003 8:17:48 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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