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1 posted on 04/23/2003 6:43:31 AM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Egregious Philbin
O'Reilly's show invited Kamiya on to defend his (wildly misrepresented) prose; but anyone who's watched the show knows that it's a hopelessly rigged game, in which the bullying host gives himself carte blanche to outshout his guests.

Translation - he won't throw us softballs like Larry King, so we ain't going there.

2 posted on 04/23/2003 6:45:04 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under construction, fines doubled for speeding)
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Salon is dying (in more ways than one) for people to pay attention to it. This is just a ploy to make itself relevant and equivalent to O'Reilly. Never happen, because they are not.
3 posted on 04/23/2003 6:52:52 AM PDT by KeyWest
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A lousy attempt to recover from their headache of an editor. But then, I don't expect Salon could box their way out of a wet paper bag.
4 posted on 04/23/2003 6:55:55 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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And the wing nut fedayeen of the right crawled out of their base camps at sites like Free Republic

Heh. A year ago we were the right-wing Taliban. Now we're fedayeen.

6 posted on 04/23/2003 6:58:45 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (No more will we pretend that our desire/For liberty is number-cold and has no fire.)
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"And the wing nut fedayeen of the right crawled out of their base camps at sites like Free Republic to throw spitballs at Salon e-mail accounts and advertisers."

wing nuts.. LOL

It sounds like Salon.com needs readers... at any cost to their sullied pride.

I never had reason to read such a fair and open-minded org's output in the first place. They are just another glittering example of Clinton's legacy, fading in the rear view mirror. Buh-Bye!

8 posted on 04/23/2003 7:06:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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wing nut fedayeen of the right

As one of the members of the "wing nut fedayeen of the right," I chuckle to think of the perception that nonFreepers and sheeple must have of us based on references like this and from the Dixie Chicks manager, etc.....I've always thought myself pretty normal, but these FR bashers make us sound like Dixie Flag Emblazoned, Ford Excursion-driving, (not that there's anything wrong with that) 1930's Germany-inspired, winged monkeys from the Wizard of Oz or something. In actuality, I'm just a normal, red-blooded American who

--has skin that turns dry in winter and oily in summer
--failed to do laundry last weekend and will probably have to pull a shirt out of the dirty clothes to wear before the week's end
--drank a little too much wine at least one night this week
--is 750 or so miles over the scheduled mileage for my oil change
--has toenail polish that is chipping and so must wear close-toed shoes until weeks' end when I will probably re-polish before I get around to doing above-mentioned laundry
--failed to eat breakfast even one day this week, despite preaching to the kiddo that it's the "most important meal of the day" (well, there's those 2 or 3 chocolate Easter eggs I had on Monday morning)
--is spending time FReeping online instead of working, like I should be (while non-FReep America is shopping gap.com or ebaying while they should be working)
Does any of this sound THAT abnormal? Does any of this sound like the life of the fedayeen winged-monkeys that we are purported to be?

11 posted on 04/23/2003 7:24:02 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (successful, educated unauthentic latina--in Patrick Leahy's eyes, at least)
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Salon is not a doctrinaire or party-line publication.

That one gave me a laugh... They evidently subscribe wholeheartedly to the "repeat the big lie often enough and most people will believe it" philosophy of the left...

13 posted on 04/23/2003 7:30:31 AM PDT by Zeppo
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And the wing nut fedayeen of the right crawled out of their base camps at sites like Free Republic

Er...I resemble that remark.

14 posted on 04/23/2003 7:32:26 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Standing tough under Stars and Stripes)
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15 posted on 04/23/2003 7:39:05 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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write a review on Salon.com here:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/write_review?q=&url=salon.com
17 posted on 04/23/2003 7:43:48 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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But why weigh a complex argument when you can seize a brief passage from the article, wrench it out of context and draw blood by entirely misrepresenting it?

Pretty much what the left is now doing to Rick Santorum and has already done to Lott, Gingrich, Jimmy the Greek, John Rocker, etc.

20 posted on 04/23/2003 7:54:21 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Salon is not a doctrinaire or party-line publication.

I'm guessing that Baghdad Bob is now an editor.

22 posted on 04/23/2003 7:57:30 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Salon??? What is that? I thought the rag went belly-up long since. It should. It's stock is down among the worst penny stocks.
23 posted on 04/23/2003 7:59:59 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (ax accountant)
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"Honesty" may be a virtue, but then Saddam was honest in his persuit of power. What is virtuous about admitting you wanted American soldiers to die so that your political enemy would be discredited -- particularly if they were fighting in a just war?
25 posted on 04/23/2003 8:04:45 AM PDT by js1138
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The relevant passages:

"The larger question of the effect of the war on the region, America, and the world, however, is less clear-cut. And it is doubts about this question that have led many of us who oppose the war to that confused state of moral schizophrenia.

I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong. Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen. I'm not alone: A number of serious, intelligent, morally sensitive people who oppose the war have told me they have had identical feelings.

Some of this is merely the result of pettiness -- ignoble resentment, partisan hackdom, the desire to be proved right and to prove the likes of Rumsfeld wrong, irritation with the sanitizing, myth-making American media. That part of it I feel guilty about, and disavow. But some of it is something trickier: It's a kind of moral bet-hedging, based on a pessimism not easy to discount, in which one's head and one's heart are at odds.

Many antiwar commentators have argued that once the war started, even those who oppose it must now wish for the quickest, least bloody victory followed by the maximum possible liberation of the Iraqi people. But there is one argument against this: What if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative -- four more years of Bush, for example, with attendant disastrous policies, or the betrayal of the Palestinians to eternal occupation, or more imperialist meddling in the Middle East or elsewhere?

Wishing for things to go wrong is the logical corollary of the postulate that the better things go for Bush, the worse they will go for America and the rest of the world. It is based on the belief that every apparent good will turn into its opposite. If this is true, then it would be better for bad things to happen to Bush. But who knows for sure that it is true? Perhaps pro-war leftist Christopher Hitchens was right when he spoke of the "cunning of history" -- perhaps the genius of Historical Progress chose Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz to be its unlikely instruments. Dialectical pessimism is the dirty little secret of the antiwar camp -- dirty because there is something distasteful about wishing for bad outcomes when the future on which those wishes are based is unknown".


30 posted on 04/23/2003 8:58:03 AM PDT by jordan8
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Of course, the real agenda of conservative media's overbearing pundits -- despite their lip service to the marketplace of ideas -- is to drive everyone who disagrees with them out of the public arena. They're not interested in open debate; their goal is to intimidate and silence.

In other words those stinking conservatives took a page from the left's playbook and since the political pendulum has swung to the right in this country people don't care. Just like the people didn't care when the pendulum swung left and liberals did the same thing. Both sides just shout at each other anyway. The only measurement of what's fair or debate is how much the audience agrees with you.

Hey the left got what they wanted now...mob rule democracy ;-) They just forgot that the mob is fickle.

45 posted on 04/23/2003 1:47:38 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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Salon is not a doctrinaire or party-line publication. We seek the full, free exchange of ideas that is the hallmark of liberal discourse. And we believe that there is still room for, even hunger for, honesty and nuance in political debate

Salon wholeheartedly supports the Democrat Party's culture war against traditional America.
Period.
Lying scumbags.

I wish Salon would hurry up and go under already.

56 posted on 04/23/2003 4:55:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Salon still exists? Salon still has editors? Do they stand on street corners with signs that say, "Will edit for food?" Is Salon's stock price now a negative number?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, now up on FR, "Who's Next?"

Latest book(let), "to Restore Trust in America."

58 posted on 04/23/2003 9:44:04 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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it is mandatory if you have a soul,

Since they are using religious jargon here, let us remind them of the words of their messiah:

"It depends on what the meaning of is - is."

59 posted on 04/23/2003 10:06:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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" And the wing nut fedayeen of the right crawled out of their base camps at sites like Free Republic to throw spitballs at Salon e-mail accounts and advertisers.

I thought we were the Talaban Wing of The Republican Party, I am confused.

64 posted on 04/24/2003 2:55:54 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!)
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