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Outbreak of SARS at Amoy Gardens, Hong Kong -- Main Findings of the Investigation
Hong Kong Department of Health ^

Posted on 04/22/2003 9:34:12 PM PDT by Lessismore

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Sewerage

7. Each block has eight vertical soil stacks each collecting effluent from the same unit of all floors. The soil stack is connected with the water closets, the basins, the bathtubs and the bathroom floor drains. Each of these sanitary fixtures is fitted with a U-shaped water trap (U-trap) to prevent foul smell and insects in the soil stack from entering the toilets. For details, please see Annex. For this preventive mechanism to function properly, the water traps must be sufficiently filled with water.

8. Interviews with Amoy Gardens residents revealed frequent complaints about foul smell in toilets, which suggest that the U-trap arrangement might not be functioning properly in some units. As the water closets, the basins and the bathtubs were frequently used, their U-traps should be charged with water and should have been functioning properly. However, as most households had the habit of cleaning the bathroom floor by mopping instead of flushing it with water, the U-traps connected to most floor drains were likely to be dry and would not have been functioning properly. Indeed, in tests carried out in one of the units in Block E, reflux of air from the soil stack into the bathroom through the floor drain was demonstrated when the exhaust fan in the bathroom was switched on. It is postulated that the reflux could have contained droplets of contaminated sewage present in the soil stack, be dispersed into the bathroom, and be extracted by the bathroom exhaust fan into the light well between adjacent units. The contaminated droplets could then enter other units through open windows.

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Pest Infestation

10. There were signs of cockroach infestation at Amoy Gardens, in particular around the carpark, food premises and drain openings. Rodent activities were also detected around refuse collection chambers, the carpark and food premises.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: amoygardens; blowback; china; hongkong; intestines; sars

1 posted on 04/22/2003 9:34:12 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
In other words, the place was a "nasty, unsanitary dump".
2 posted on 04/22/2003 10:38:40 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
Spread in the hospitals via bed pans?
3 posted on 04/22/2003 10:42:24 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
I heard it mutates frequently making it impossible to create an antidote. Critters can spread this disease. This virus is believed to have been spread by cockroaches in a China apartment complex...Not just person to person, as once thought! Scary. Also, the SARS mortality rate in Canada is over 9 percent, more than a 100 cases reported.

The greater public needs to realize that this is not just an Asian problem.
4 posted on 04/22/2003 10:54:59 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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To: Lessismore; glorgau; Pro-Bush; Brian S; Prince Charles; DeaconBenjamin; PJ-Comix; FairOpinion; ...
All of you have heard it many times... 5% death rate.

Those who continue to report a 5% death rate are either lying, or are statistically challenged.

The illness takes 3 to 4 weeks to kill after having been diagnosed. So the CORRECT way to calculate it, is take the DEATHS TODAY, divided by the TOTAL CASES 3 weeks ago!

I did this for two countries, using W.H.O. data...

It looks like the death rate is somewhat similar to smallpox... (somewhere between 19 and 44 percent) !!!!!

5 posted on 04/22/2003 11:42:02 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
Yours is a more sensible approach to calculation than the official one (which tacitly uses zero weeks -- obviously wrong), but what is your source for the 3 to 4 week number?

A still better calculation would use statistics based on time of disease onset, rather than time of report. I believe WHO has some statistics tabulated on this basis.

6 posted on 04/22/2003 11:54:28 PM PDT by forewarning
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To: forewarning
I've got stats and charts on the Hong Kong outbreak here
7 posted on 04/23/2003 12:05:37 AM PDT by per loin
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To: forewarning
source of data... world health org.

source of "deaths occurring 3 to 4 weeks after diagnosis"...
several reports about people who died.
8 posted on 04/23/2003 12:54:14 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: per loin; FL_engineer
I've got stats and charts on the Hong Kong outbreak here

I should have known!

Can these be crunched with your other data to yield a FL_engineer-style estimate? Use of onset dates rather than report dates should lower the estimated death rate somewhat, since onsets preceed reports.

This still leaves the 3-to-4-week parameter unsourced (though it seems plausible).

BTW, as I noted elsewhere, the New York Times (16 April) report that all the doctors and nurses treating an early case got SARS suggests that (for that strain, by that mode of exposure) the natural immunity rate is low.

9 posted on 04/23/2003 1:02:15 AM PDT by forewarning
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To: forewarning
They already include deaths as a percentage of all hospital admissions; as a percentage of total patients hospitalized as of one, two and three weeks prior to each date; and as a percentage of all who have left the hospitals, living or dead.

I have no steady source for stats on onsets.

10 posted on 04/23/2003 1:10:39 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Lessismore
No wonder they all got sick -- they might as well have been living in an open sewer.
11 posted on 04/23/2003 9:38:54 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: per loin
The Wednesday WHO numbers are up at http://www.who.int/csr/sarscountry/2003_04_23/en/

China is now admitting to an additional 306 SARS cases and 14 deaths since yesterday's numbers

12 posted on 04/23/2003 9:49:48 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for doing the research.

THIS does make is scary, and maybe there something to the rumors/theories that it is either deliberate bioterrorism, an accidental escape from a bioweapons lab.
13 posted on 04/23/2003 5:14:35 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Lessismore; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; InShanghai; ...
Ping.
14 posted on 06/03/2003 4:34:09 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: glorgau
Not carried from room to room, ever. Given to patient, one to a customer.
15 posted on 06/03/2003 4:37:55 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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