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Rumsfeld calls for regime change in North Korea
The Daily Telegraph ^ | April 22, 2003 | David Rennie

Posted on 04/21/2003 4:57:50 PM PDT by MadIvan

A secret Donald Rumsfeld memorandum calling for regime change in North Korea was leaked yesterday, opening a fresh foreign policy split in the Bush administration.

The classified discussion paper, circulated by the defence secretary, appears to cut directly across State Department plans to disarm Kim Jong-il, the North's dictator, through threats leavened by promises that his regime is not a target for overthrow.

The paper does not call for military action against North Korea, but wants the United States to team up with China in pushing for the collapse of Kim Jong-il's bankrupt but belligerent regime, the New York Times reported.

In a sign that Washington is girding itself for a repetition of the bitter rows that preceded the Iraq conflict, the memorandum was leaked on the same day that a senior State Department negotiator flew to Beijing for three-way talks with China and North Korea.

Officials working for Mr Rumsfeld are implacably opposed to the talks, pointing to North Korea's long history of extorting aid and concessions in return for promises - never kept - to behave in a more reasonable way.

Instead, they seek to use the salutary effect of the rapid victory in Iraq to push North Korea to scrap its nuclear weapons programme immediately.

They also want to demand weapons inspections across the country. That would be an unthinkable concession for a Stalinist police state that bars even aid agencies from a third of its territory.

This raises the prospect that Washington would be urging inspections for form's sake and with little hope of success, much as happened in Iraq.

Even before the American envoy, James Kelly, arrived in Beijing for the talks, there were signs of new North Korean brinksmanship.

Pyongyang released conflicting statements last Friday, saying in an English language text that it had started reprocessing spent fuel rods into plutonium, a dramatic step that would place it only months from producing several nuclear warheads. However, a Korean version of the statement said that Pyongyang was merely poised to begin reprocessing.

Supporters of the diplomatic approach attacked the Pentagon proposal as ludicrous. They said that Beijing, while appalled by North Korea's recent behaviour, would never join an American-led campaign to topple its communist neighbour.

An unnamed senior administration official told the New York Times: "The last thing the Chinese want is a collapse of North Korea that will create a flood of refugees into China and put Western allies on the Chinese border."

The White House says that regime change in North Korea is not official policy, despite the country's inclusion with Iraq and Iran in President George W Bush's "axis of evil".

Mr Bush has said that he "loathes" Kim Jong-il, who is believed to have killed a tenth of his population through starvation and imprisonment in vast labour camps.

Colin Powell, the secretary of state, is said to have secured the president's approval for a carrot and stick approach in a meeting last week. Mr Powell called for threats to withhold aid and investment from North Korea, while assuring the regime that it faces no threat from the United States.

Mr Rumsfeld, who was "distracted" by the war against Saddam Hussein, did not attend the meeting and may now be trying to regain some traction in the Korea debate, officials speculated.

Mr Bush, who appears willing to let his senior aides scrap over policy before taking a final decision, endorsed Mr Kelly's diplomatic mission at the weekend and thanked Beijing for hosting the talks.

He said that China's involvement meant there was "a good chance of convincing North Korea to abandon her ambitions to develop nuclear arsenals".

The Clinton administration drew up plans to bomb the main North Korean nuclear site at Yongbyon. But the generally far more hawkish Bush government has long contended that talk of military action against North Korea is unrealistic, given the country's huge conventional arsenals aimed at South Korea.

Instead, conservatives have advocated letting North Korea "stew in its own juice", cutting off the overseas aid which sustains the crumbling regime until it collapses under its own weight.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; kimjongil; next; northkorea; pyongyang; rumsfeld; uk; us
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Hadn't seen this posted anywhere else. As per usual, Rumsfeld is right - destroy "Little Kim" (not the one that sings).

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/21/2003 4:57:50 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 04/21/2003 4:58:02 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
wants the United States to team up with China in pushing for the collapse of Kim Jong-il's bankrupt but belligerent regime

Kim has to go, but I don't see China helping us out here.

3 posted on 04/21/2003 5:00:45 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: MadIvan
In a sign that Washington is girding itself for a repetition of the bitter rows that preceded the Iraq conflict, the memorandum was leaked on the same day that a senior State Department negotiator flew to Beijing for three-way talks with China and North Korea.
Brilliant. Good cop, bad cop. Our diplomats on the scene offer concessions even as our Pentegon "leaks" documents suggesting a far more proactive course of action. When did we get so good at psyching out our enemies?
4 posted on 04/21/2003 5:01:51 PM PDT by Asclepius (to the barricades)
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To: MadIvan
Rummy is so cool. Anyone hear of the latest Bush approval figures?
5 posted on 04/21/2003 5:02:47 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: MadIvan
The neo-cons just want San Fran to get nuked.

Hey, I'm not objecting.

6 posted on 04/21/2003 5:02:57 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: MadIvan
Maybe that leak was on purpose to just scare them. After all they are launching test missiles everywhere.
One even landed in Alaska!
7 posted on 04/21/2003 5:03:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Yup, two can play the disunformation game...
8 posted on 04/21/2003 5:07:32 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: MadIvan
That reminds me of that little statement that was in the Mew York Times I think.

An aid comes into president Bushes office and tells the President that his unstable defense secretary Rumsfeld had just threatened Syria, And the President looks at him and says, "good".

Well, take out Syria and put in North Korea, same same.

GOOD!! About fricking time we quit pussyfooting with a communist dictator.
9 posted on 04/21/2003 5:12:16 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: AmericaUnited
Sure, I figure the administration wats NK to think twice before they test stuff in the wrong direction.

The big issue is though that NK is starving to death, so unless CHina intends to feed them, look for major steps of desperation by their brainless leader who told his people "I am god"!
10 posted on 04/21/2003 5:12:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MadIvan
Do you have the latest approval ratings for Mr Blair? I would love to see them.
11 posted on 04/21/2003 5:35:27 PM PDT by math=power
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"The neo-cons just want San Fran to get nuked. "

Hey I never thought of that! GREAT IDEA!!

12 posted on 04/21/2003 5:40:19 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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...North Korea's long history of extorting aid and concessions in return for promises - never kept - to behave in a more reasonable way.

Sounds like I heard the same thing coming out of the middleeast not too long ago.

Rumsfeld is not a neo-con. Now, David Hurowitz, he's a neo-con.

yitbos

13 posted on 04/21/2003 5:47:28 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Veritas Vos Liberabit)
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To: MadIvan
I know people think that Powell and Rumsfeld genuinely hate each other and that may be true, but I can't help but thinking that they make the best good cop/bad cop foreign policy team that the U.S. has ever had and the pure genius of it is that Bush can sit back and takes no direct blame for it so he can come in for either side as the situation warrants. Basically, Rusmfeld gets to scare the bejeebies out of North Korea while Powell gets to come in and say, "Can you help me out here? Because if you don't, Bush might listen to Rumsfeld..." Good stuff.
14 posted on 04/21/2003 5:53:22 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: A CA Guy
Maybe that leak was on purpose to just scare them

First, 'IF' this was leaked on purpose, then this game is getting old and I'm not sure I like the 'stategery'. Bush is building huge points for being an honest, straight shooter who can hopefully save lives and win another election by continuing to do so. Playing games with 'leaks' might be fun for scaring the crap out of various countries, but in the long run I think it hurts.

Second, 'IF' this really is a leak, then Rummy needs to root the leaky ba$Tard out and put them in the public spot light, ie: on trial for treason. Leaks get people killed.

Just an opinion, worth what you paid for it.

15 posted on 04/21/2003 5:54:07 PM PDT by mad puppy (We will be there for as long as it takes...)
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To: MadIvan
Just a little pyschological Shock and Awe going on just for Yo Kim Chia Head, the Short Donged One and ASSad, junior. Whenever, these vicious/petty little dictators here those magical words, Regime Change, they soil their pants and say, "Yes Sir!"


16 posted on 04/21/2003 6:02:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: mad puppy
But the idea is to get the best results for the money. If we have NK scrambling from just a rumor, that could benefit us by them behaving at just the rumor of the threat, at no charge to us.
Part of what is good about being taken seriously.
17 posted on 04/21/2003 6:07:37 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mad puppy
If a real leak, it was intended (I think)!
18 posted on 04/21/2003 6:08:22 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MadIvan
Rummy to Ill: "GIN!"
19 posted on 04/21/2003 6:29:01 PM PDT by Russell Scott (The UN is a hellish beast, which gives evil, vile despots a veneer of legitimacy.)
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To: MadIvan
Shhhhh! Shhhhh!!

No so loud!

Let's finish Iraq first, then we can get round to all these other despots.

If we start in chanting "regime change" now it's only going to drive the economy into the tank.

Let's clean up what's on our plate first, let the economy rebound a little and then head over to NK and get our boat back.

20 posted on 04/21/2003 6:32:12 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (It's called "adoption" Perhaps you've heard of it?)
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