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Orders to retreat came as surprise, Iraqi officer says
Mercury News ^ | 4/20/03 | Carol Rosenberg

Posted on 04/20/2003 2:18:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BAGHDAD, Iraq -Iraqi military commanders, certain they could never counter overwhelming American air power, thought they could defeat the United States by making a bloody stand for Baghdad that would so sicken the American public that the United States would withdraw its troops and go home.


(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: baghdaddefense; fallofbaghdad; iraqi; iraqifreedom; iraqiofficers; officer; orders; repubicanguard; retreat; surprise; surrender

1 posted on 04/20/2003 2:18:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe our Special Ops told them to retreat.
2 posted on 04/20/2003 2:23:32 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: NormsRevenge
That's what they get for listening to Baghdad Bob......and Peter Jennings.
3 posted on 04/20/2003 2:26:17 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: boomop1
That would be pretty cool. Dirty trick, issuing orders on behalf of your enemy's generals. Heh, heh.
4 posted on 04/20/2003 2:27:31 PM PDT by clamboat
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin; PhiKapMom
Bits and pieces dribble out..... the question is are they accurate?
5 posted on 04/20/2003 2:31:04 PM PDT by deport
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To: boomop1
hmmm, that was suspicious turn of events ... " but was telephoned to field units by the highest levels."

I THOUGHT THE PHONES WERE KNOCKED OUT! Hmmmm. Excuses made?
6 posted on 04/20/2003 2:37:43 PM PDT by WOSG (All Hail The Free Republic of Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: clamboat
Sounds like something from MIssion Impossible: A special telephone that can imitate any voice dialed into it. You only think you're talking to your boss,the general,.....when actually you are being tricked. SOuld good to me. Get Smart's shoe!
7 posted on 04/20/2003 2:41:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: deport
Were female news reporters allowed to operate as embedded media inside Iraq during the initial actions up until fall of Baghdad?

I'm not sure about Carol Rosenberg and her status in that case, or if subsequently, she and others are now able to enter Iraq and do reporting such as this.

8 posted on 04/20/2003 2:42:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe, just maybe, Major Salah Abdullah Mahdi al-Jabouri will now use his leadership and organizational skills to help freedom flourish in iraq. Maybe, just maybe, he will look at his wife and children, nieces and nephews, and help build a new future for iraq; with freedom for the Shiites, Sunnis, Jews, and Christians. Maybe, just maybe, iraq will NOT become another islamic revolutionary state ala iran.

Good Luck, Major.

9 posted on 04/20/2003 2:49:48 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: boomop1
Wouldn't that be something, though?
10 posted on 04/20/2003 3:11:46 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: boomop1
Maybe Psyops used a psychotronic generator to put the fear of Allah in them so they would cower under their beds.

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/98spring/thomas.htm
11 posted on 04/20/2003 3:20:17 PM PDT by Rain-maker
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To: WOSG
I THOUGHT THE PHONES WERE KNOCKED OUT! Hmmmm. Excuses made?

Lots of types of phones, including field phones.

12 posted on 04/20/2003 3:55:14 PM PDT by lepton
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To: NormsRevenge
Iraqi field commanders were surprised April 8, as they were preparing to battle U.S. incursions into the capital, when they were ordered to withdraw and return to their bases north of the city

This could be treachery, or it could be treason, or it could be the best clue yet that Saddam and his sons died on April 7, in Monsour, of excessive heat and blast.

Isn't this what you would do, if you were an Iraqi General, and you knew that Saddam was dead? Why put your own men through a meat-grinder? To defend what?

You know that even the Americans know that Iraq will need an army. You will be back. Your men will be back. And if you move quickly, you'll all be alive to be there when your country needs you.

These were some wise Generals. Saddam was right not to trust them. Their loyalty was to their country, not to him.


13 posted on 04/20/2003 4:40:55 PM PDT by Nick Danger (We have imprisoned them in their tanks -- Baghdad Bob)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is this about the Iraqi militarty or french history?
14 posted on 04/20/2003 5:02:52 PM PDT by schaketo (frenchies and their ilk now take Iraq's place in the "Axis of Evil"!)
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To: WOSG
Witness the number of times Iraqi TV was off and on the air. Redundancies within redundancies.

Then again... maybe the C&C came from Moscow via the Russian advisors.

VH
15 posted on 04/20/2003 5:11:27 PM PDT by VxH
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To: Nick Danger
Probably the 1st bomb killed hussien !
16 posted on 04/20/2003 5:14:27 PM PDT by f.Christian (( Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be. ))
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To: Nick Danger
well said
17 posted on 04/20/2003 5:17:49 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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