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Japanese researchers develop 'microwave rocket'
Daily Yomiuri ^
Posted on 04/20/2003 7:23:36 AM PDT by Trailer Trash
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Researchers develop 'microwave rocket'
Yomiuri Shimbun A group of Tokyo University researchers has successfully applied electromagnetic waves--normally used to heat food in microwave ovens--as the propulsion force for a "microwave rocket," the first time such an experiment has succeeded. According to the group led by Kimiya Komurasaki, an associate professor at the department of advanced energy, the development could enable cost and size reductions in rockets as they could use air in the atmosphere as a means of propulsion, rather than having to carry fuel. The group fired the microwaves at the rocket's base, rapidly heating the air and creating a burst of energy that propelled the rocket upward. The group used a powerful gyrotron developed by the Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute to heat an international thermonuclear experimental reactor to fire the beam at a dish-shaped metallic object shaped like a round-bottomed pan. The waves reflected off the object and converged, causing the air to reach ultrahigh temperatures and generating an explosive expansion that created the propulsive power. When the beam was applied for just one-thousandth of a second to a model rocket weighing 9.5 grams, it flew two meters into the air, the group said. According to the group, the beam could be continually fired from the ground at the rocket powering it to an altitude higher than 100 kilometers where there is no air. Once this altitude was reached, the rocket could switch over to a conventional rocket engine. |
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Copyright 2003 The Yomiuri Shimbun |
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goliath; japan; microwave; miltech; realscience; rocket; science; space; techindex
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To: Trailer Trash
Interesting, sounds like a microwave version of
Leik Myrabo's "lightship"
work.
I remember hearing a few years ago about how a microwave version would be better than laser because microwave generators could be scaled up more easily.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:37:44 AM PDT
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alnitak
To: Trailer Trash
I dunno about microwaves, but this has already been done here in the US with lasers instead of microwaves. Same principle, energy fired at a light and mirror-reflective dish, except ours went somewhere around 100 feet up. It had to be stabilized by rotation (they would get it spinning with compressed air right before take off).
I believe the discovery channel had a program on them.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:37:48 AM PDT
by
anobjectivist
(The natural rights of people are more basic than those currently considered)
To: alnitak
Well, you beat me to it.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:39:01 AM PDT
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anobjectivist
(The natural rights of people are more basic than those currently considered)
To: Trailer Trash
"...the development could enable cost and size reductions in rockets as they could use air in the atmosphere as a means of propulsion, rather than having to carry fuel..."
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Yeah, now that heavy fuel can be replaced by heavy storage batteries.
And, there isn't any 'air' in space to heat up in order to get the propulsive effect.
Just a few of the bugs that need to be worked out, thats all.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:45:31 AM PDT
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error99
To: anobjectivist
Early bird catches the worm :-) I saw this on TV too ("Tomorrow's World" here in the UK"), the thing I remember was them having trouble with the wind, and having to be careful to time their "flights" so as not to fry any satellites passing overhead!
Scientific American article here on new methods of spaceflight. (click the "box" link on page 6 of the article for some more details specific to Myrabo's scheme)
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:47:55 AM PDT
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alnitak
To: error99
The atmosphere is used as the reactant-mass while you're in it. The microwave energy is beamed up from the ground - this is the key point, existing craft have to carry all their fuel, which is heavy, hence step-rockets. Beamed energy solutions let you leave the fuel on the ground - not to mention the power plant. As for when you get out of the atmosphere, well you can carry anything to act as reactant mass, say liquid air or water, though I imagine liquid hydrogen would be best because of its low mass.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:51:08 AM PDT
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alnitak
To: alnitak
You should test your links in 'preview'.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:51:17 AM PDT
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error99
To: error99
Hmm, sorry about that, must be because I found the article via their search engine. Here's a
direct link to the Myrabo article, and a link to the
entire issue, which has many space related stories.
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posted on
04/20/2003 7:58:06 AM PDT
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alnitak
To: anobjectivist
Moties?
To: Bear_in_RoseBear; JenB
Seems like a microwave powerful enough to send up a serious, payload, say one measured in tons rather than grams, might be a serious weapon in its own right.
Kind of along the lines of the laser powered vehicles in "Footfall."
Wonder if microwaves can be used as guidance systems as lasers can. Perhaps they would not be deflected by smoke.
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posted on
04/20/2003 8:07:53 AM PDT
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Sam Cree
(liberals are the axis of evil)
To: Sam Cree
Kind of along the lines of the laser powered vehicles in "Footfall." Heh. Was thinking the same thing. And another variation are the laser-powered sails in "The Mote in God's Eye."
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posted on
04/20/2003 8:29:50 AM PDT
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Eala
(irrelevant (î-rèl´e-vent) 1: The United Nations 2: France 3: CNN 4: Tim Robbins 5: PBS)
To: *Space; *RealScience; *tech_index; sourcery; Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: Trailer Trash
Way cool! ...and you can make popcorn with it to boot!
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04/20/2003 8:41:37 AM PDT
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chilepepper
(Gnocchi Seuton!)
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To: error99; Razzz
"Yeah, now that heavy fuel can be replaced by heavy storage batteries."
The microwave generator never leaves the ground. The beam is focused upon the aircraft, and the resulting reaction creates the thrust.
To: Eala
I'd forgotten about those "sail" ships.
Your essay on the war against the Left on your home page is right on the money, IMO.
I agree that people always seem to be concentrating on the battles instead of the war. Why do you suppose that is? Heads in the sand, fear of sounding crazy? Having the same agenda, but not admitting it (acquisition of power)?
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posted on
04/20/2003 9:09:50 AM PDT
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Sam Cree
(liberals are the axis of evil)
To: Trailer Trash
I want my air car. I want to fold my car into a briefcase like George Jetson. I want to take a Pan Am rocket to the Moon like 2001. Where is all the cool stuff we were promised in the movies and television. Ya, this internet thing is nice, if unpredicted. Of course, future predictions aren't all that great. For instance, in Star Trek-The Next Generation, they cure all disease (including cancer) with a five minute stay in sick bay. Yet the Captain is still bald like a cue ball. Sotty to hear in the year 2300 they stil haven't found a cure for it.
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04/20/2003 9:19:08 AM PDT
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Lawgvr1955
(Never draw to an inside straight)
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To: alnitak
But wouldn't the microwaves be a hazard to anything between the rising rocket and the microwave generator? Cooked birds, for example?
And if yes, wouldn't this make an excellent missile and air defense system?
If I were America's enemies, I would counter our air dominance by developing new air defense systems -- energy beams of all types or rail guns or whatever. Instead of trying to put together a complex system that took us a half century to achieve in the air, try to leap ahead and make it so that anything that flies, dies. Thus negating our edge and returning it to a ground battle where our edge isn't as huge.
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posted on
04/20/2003 9:50:42 AM PDT
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LenS
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