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Does America Require Conservative Leadership to Win A War?
RightTurns.com ^ | April 15, 2003 | SAM T. HARPER

Posted on 04/19/2003 8:10:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion

I remember reading several years ago an article by Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick in which she explained that America has more success winning wars with conservative leadership than liberal leadership. Liberals just do not have the principle and insight to win wars.

I have been thinking about her premise lately during my recent work drive time and my Tennessee back roads bicycle time. Especially since the war with Iraq is so successfully near completion and especially since the clear anti-war pessimism of the leading Democrat leaders.

I do not remember Kirkpatrick's specific arguments, but recently I have come to the same conclusions. I realize as a conservative believer, I could easily find support for the point by being blind to facts that would counter the argument. I will try not to do that.

Let's begin with 1898 and the Spanish-American War. It was clearly a war begun and executed by conservative politicians. President William McKinley, elected in 1896 by the largest majority since U.S. Grant in 1868, was a long time Republican who saw the need to stop Spain's old world colonial expansion efforts. Gore Vidal and others have a more cynical explanation: it was all a fabrication of newspaper mogul William Randolph Hearst. In the end, McKinley was right and with Theodore Roosevelt in the field, Spain capitulated after a 19th century version of "shock and awe" by land and by sea. I had a Filipino economist tell me one time that the source of the Philippine's ever present economic malaise is its inherited Spanish culture.

Now let's move on to World War I. Liberal democrat President Woodrow Wilson was the instigator of America's entry into the war. Now this appears to counter my argument. Taken in the context of the time, it does not. Recently I have read much about WWI. The incompetence of Woodrow Wilson was countered by the fact that he willingly turned over the war operations to John J. Pershing, General of the Armies. This was not any great strategic decision by Wilson; it was a necessity because of the separation in geography. Pershing had to have the authority to make decision without awaiting Washington's approval. The strategic and tactical skills of Pershing and his command (which for the most part, he personally selected) clearly shored up the Allied effort and forced the Germans to sue for peace.

So what is your point here, Sam? Pershing was a conservative Republican. How do I know? His closest friend was Charles G. Dawes, later Vice President to Calvin Coolidge. Pershing was endorsed for the 1928 GOP nomination by the Nashville Banner and the New York Sun, both conservative newspapers. His biographer Donald Smythe says that Pershing was disappointed when he lost the 1928 GOP nomination to Herbert Hoover.

On the surface, World War II appears to present less compelling support for Ms. Kirkpatrick's premise. I know of no argument that claims liberal democrat President Franklin Roosevelt was a slacker in prosecuting the war. Further analysis, however, reveals that his top two theater commanders, Dwight Eisenhower and Douglas MacArthur, were both GOP conservatives. (I hear today's liberal pundits refer to Eisenhower as a liberal Republican. Wrong. They find themselves unable to say anything bad about him, so as not to appear nice to a conservative, they label him liberal.)

Another element of conservative leadership during WWII appeared to me in the recent Pulitzer Prize winning biography, Robert Caro's excellent 3rd volume of the biography of Lyndon B. Johnson, Master of the Senate. Caro spends the first 100+ pages of the book explaining the history of the power residing in the U.S. Senate. He makes it clear that FDR got his liberal New Deal legislation passed in the 1932-1934 time frame. After that, conservative senators regained control of the Senate and effectively prevented any further liberal legislation. Caro also goes on to explain that during the WWII, it was the power of conservative southern Senator Richard Russell (D - Georgia) that was one of the keys to the successful building of American military might.

Korea seems to support the premise. General Douglas MacArthur was militarily beating the North Koreans and Chinese when relieved by Truman. Truman was right to do so, but it cost him his presidency. After MacArthur was sent home, the war turned bad. Truman did not even run for a second elected term. Eisenhower was elected on the promise he would end the war and he did after taking office.

Vietnam was a liberal's war from the very beginning. Liberal (though much less liberal than the Camelot screen writers will admit) democrat President John Kennedy got us into it and liberal democrat President Lyndon Johnson got us bogged down in it. They both compounded the mistake by using a liberal democrat Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamera, and a liberal democrat military commander, General William Westmoreland. It took conservative republican President Richard Nixon to extricate us honorably from the mess. (If you do not believe he made a difference, read James and Sybil Stockdale's book Love and War.) The dishonorable fall of Vietnam after Nixon resigned can clearly be placed at the feet of the liberal democrats in Congress. They pulled the rug out from underneath the South Vietnamese when they asked for help.

President Carter's military rescue disaster in the deserts of Iran in 1979 and President Reagan's subsequent several military successes (though his record was not perfect; remember the Marines in Beirut) also reinforce Kirkpatrick's premise.

Conservative republican President George H.W. Bush's Gulf War I is another clear example of supporting the premise. Liberal democrat President Bill Clinton did have some military success: Kosovo. Mostly, however, he avoided conflict or pursued it halfheartedly and unsuccessfully. Point to Kirkpatrick.

Now we are at the present. The Kirkpatrick premise, that American conservative leadership wins wars and American liberal leadership does not, is supported on the newspaper front pages of the past few weeks. The unbelievably pessimistic, how can we win, war just creates bigger problems, why can't we negotiate more, can't we all just get along attitude of the liberal democrat leadership appears to be completely out of touch with reality. Granted, we do not know how Iraq will turn out over the next several years, but it will definitely be better for the Iraqi people and the world, than with Saddam in charge. Granted, we do not know where the war of terrorism is leading us, but we do appear to be winning. I say Ambassador Kirkpatrick has it right: conservative leadership is providing the guts, the stamina, and the principle to win these wars.

Follow up note to last edition's article: "What the media does not understand: How the military works"

A point I made in the article was the lack of military veterans in the embedded reporter corps. Ron Ellingson, Missoula, Montana, rightfully pointed out that I overlooked Ollie North on Fox News. Thanks, Ron. Good catch. In addition, I found another one: Greg Kelly, also on Fox News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commanderinchief; conservative; iraq; iraqifreedom; jeannekirkpatrick; leadership; wars
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I think he definitely has a point. Conservatives are the ones who have the resolve to do what it takes to win a war, and of course we should only fight to win.
1 posted on 04/19/2003 8:10:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Well, maybe. Eisenhower was conservative by today's standards, and I think he was a good president, but he was put forward by the liberal wing of the party to shut out the more conservative Taft.

Also, I'm not sure there was much to admire about the generalship on anyone's part in the First World War. It was a total disaster from start to finish--basically a meat grinder designed to kill as many people as possible and end only when both sides were exhausted. Sure, we won, and maybe Pershing did as good a job as could be done in the circumstances, but that war managed to destroy Christian Europe, hand Russia over to the Communists, and turn the whole western world cynical.
2 posted on 04/19/2003 8:25:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I think one of the things missing from the article is the point that the liberals of forty years ago ( like JFK) look like conservatives in comparison to todays liberals, who shifted to the left significantly in the past number of years.

Just think, JFK was for strong defense, he gave an ultimatum to the Russians about Cuba, he enacted large tax cuts, any of which would choke today's "liberals" (i.e. leftists, masquarading as liberals).
4 posted on 04/19/2003 8:36:48 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Liberals cause 'em and start 'em, Conservatives complete them and win them.
5 posted on 04/19/2003 8:39:06 PM PDT by capydick (The triumph of evil is short)
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To: Cicero
Interesting, The Great War signaled the end of the Victorian Age.
Art Nuoveau to Dadaism.
6 posted on 04/19/2003 8:41:23 PM PDT by ffusco ("Essiri sempri la santu fora la chiesa.")
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To: FairOpinion
yes, democrats don't have the fortitude to stick with it.
7 posted on 04/19/2003 8:41:26 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: FairOpinion
I am supposing that it can't really be denied that FDR was an effective war leader, regardless of contributions from others.

And it's arguable that we could have won the war in Europe at all if the Russians had not been engaged.

However, I am inclined to think that a country that values individual liberty will produce better soldiers, more wealth and power, more motivation. So, it kind of stands to reason that a president that is in sync with American values should be more effective.
8 posted on 04/19/2003 8:43:51 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Liberals are the axis of evil)
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To: FairOpinion
Actually, McKinley had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into going along with the idea of war with Spain. Roosevelt was one of the prime instigators. And then there was the press. Quite unlike today's press.
9 posted on 04/19/2003 8:55:53 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik
Bump for later reading.
10 posted on 04/19/2003 8:59:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: FairOpinion
As another poster said, "Well, maybe."
I find the entire premise an exercise
in petty hubris. Nixon lost VN. FDR
and Truman won WWII. Wilson won WWI.
The whole thing is petty.
11 posted on 04/19/2003 9:14:15 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: gcruse
[i]I find the entire premise an exercise
in petty hubris. Nixon lost VN. FDR
and Truman won WWII. Wilson won WWI.
The whole thing is petty.[/i]

Yup.

Just like the 90s was the Clinton economy and today we're in the Bush recession.

Is that all the public schools teach people? That whatever president is in office when something happens deserves all the credit?
12 posted on 04/19/2003 9:29:42 PM PDT by ConservativeNewsNetwork
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To: FairOpinion
I think that he's made the point that wars are won by politicians who let their generals plan and execute the fighting.

He also over-simplifies just how those particular wars were won, and who contributed to the victory. Dwight Eisenhower and Douglas MacArthur were both conservatives, but what about Gens. Marshall, Bradley, and Montgomery; all of whom were arguably moderate or even internationalist in their politics? The innumerable field commanders who's guts and determination won the battles, was there not a liberal among them?

I'd like to believe that my political wing has the lock on courage, guts, and determination but I know that it would be the height of foolishness to accept that belief at face value.

13 posted on 04/19/2003 9:30:09 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: gcruse
Ah, but Wilson, Lloyd George and Clemenceau set into motion the messes ( wars AND terrorism ) that followed their lunacy into the 21rst Century. FDR added to that at Yalta.

We should NEVER have been invovled in WWI and that war could easily have been avoided. Thank France & Russia for the start of it. All of which set WW II up.

OTOH, yes, the articel is REALLY reaching, to make an invalid point.

14 posted on 04/19/2003 9:39:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
If anyone set in motion the mess of the twentieth century, my vote goes to the French at Versailles. Without their draconian peace terms and hostility towards the Weimar Republic, the ground that gave rise to Hitler would never had existed. But,
what you have said is equally valid.
15 posted on 04/19/2003 9:44:40 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: gcruse
Wilson went along with the French AND the French & English cut up the Middle East, in such a way, that there was NO way to have avoided the ensuing mess. Ditto for the Balkans, Middle Europe, and even the Far East.

What's absolutely remarkable about that entire mess, are the players, from the BIG THREE, through the perifferals, such as Ho Chi Min, who was a busboy in Paris, at the conference, and watched, listened and studied it all. Also, there was every sort of group there, from women's suffrage, to birth control, to groups, petioning for " liberty " and screaming for Wilson's bloody 14 POINTS and self determination, who are STILL screaming for their own piece of whatever nation they claim they don't belong to and want freedom from.

16 posted on 04/19/2003 9:52:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gcruse
Ask yourself who the enemy is when evaluating the enthusiasm of presidents from the American left in prosecuting war.

WW1 & 2 were against the right, so easy for the democrat presidents to support.

Korea, VIetnam, Cold war were against the left, so halfhearted support to outright hostility from democrats.

War Against Terrorism: The left sees this as as wrongly fought because it undermines one-worldism. The democrat party has also morphed from Kennedy's era to today, from patriots to America haters.

Ambassador Kirkpatrick's analysis is corect if applied to the time since 1968.
17 posted on 04/19/2003 10:31:06 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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WWI and WWII were against the right?
Do this mean I have found an ally in
resisting the notion that the Socialist
in National Socialist meant a government
of the left?
18 posted on 04/19/2003 10:34:43 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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Do this mean I have found an ally in resisting the notion that the Socialist in National Socialist meant a government of the left?

The "Socialist" is similiar to the "socialist " of the left only in the use of the term and in the fact that both represented virulant symptomes of statism.

The difference between facism and socialism is that facism picks and backs those who will win economically and socialism supports losers.

19 posted on 04/20/2003 12:08:28 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: FairOpinion
I agree with you. Our most recent conflicts have shown without a doubt how pathetic and impotent Democrats are at potecting this nations and our interests.
20 posted on 04/20/2003 2:33:15 AM PDT by Ajnin
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