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Will George W Bush really suffer his father's fate?
The Sunday Telegraph ^
| April 20, 2003
| Julian Coman
Posted on 04/19/2003 4:20:39 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Cuttnhorse
Will George W Bush really suffer his father's fate? If Gale Norton keeps screwing his rural base the way she just did ranchers in Utah, and plays to the middle in a sour economy, yes.
To: Carry_Okie
Norton is a disgusting wench.
Gee, folks are finding an awful lot of reasons not to vote for the great "compassionate conservative". Guns, enviro issues, first amendment, abortion, big government, immigration etc. etc. on and on.
Amazing stupidity from someone who was entrusted by the good folks in all of those "red" states. It's almost as if he purposely had it in for the people most loyal to him.
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:32:31 PM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: Redleg Duke
The secret to Bill Clinton's success was that he told lies that no one could imagine anyone would even consider telling. As a result, his lies were believed.
Baghdad Bill
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:32:33 PM PDT
by
mrebel2k
To: gcruse
"You'd deny Bush your vote because you can't get
a machine gun to kill deer and call it sport? Mercy."
MAJOR DITTOS on your insightful comment -- I can't believe how politically/morally myopic some "gold star" conservatives [a David Horowitz term] can be!
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:36:00 PM PDT
by
DrDeb
To: Professional
People so conveniently forget to mention the Ross Perot factor of the 92 electionYou are so right. It's never mentioned.
Clinton won (lest we forget -- and I know that none of us here ever will) with just 43% of the popular vote.
We can't change history but had Perot not been in the race, it's extremely likely that Mr. Bush I would have won a substantial victory.
In 2004, the shoe's on the other (left) foot. Besides waiting to see if Nader tries again, we've got the luxurious spectacle of Sharpton mixing it up with the Dems big boys.
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:38:11 PM PDT
by
BfloGuy
(The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
To: DrDeb
Thanks.
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:38:19 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(The F word, N word, C word: We're well on our way to spelling 'France.')
To: Drew68
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:39:02 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: MadIvan
This Bush had the cajones to get the job done. He never waffled, and so far has not raised taxes. The only issue that will matter in 2004 is NATIONAL SECURITY.
To: Drew68
Any Million Mom March soccer mom isn't going to vote for Bush in any case.
His dad bent over for the anti-gun/pro-tax crowd and he had no second term.
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:48:12 PM PDT
by
nvcdl
To: Proud2BAmerican
"wait...tell me why GWB is a conservative again?"
Let's see, explain why Bush is a conservative. If you don't think he's conservative, then your head is in the sand.
I don't have the energy or patience to educate you, but here is a *short* list of issues that Bush is conservative on:
1) abortion
2) school choice
3) tax cuts
4) federal judges
5) prayer in school
6) pro-military
7) SDI
8) anti-Kyoto
9) affirmative action/racial quotas
10) social security reform
That's just off the top of my head. Now I'll agree that he's not Pat Buchanan or Harry Browne, but that works in his favor as well.
Some people are never satisfied, I put the single issue freaks in that category of people. (Along with my ex-girlfriend.)
Trace
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:48:20 PM PDT
by
Trace21230
(Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
To: AAABEST
sorry! lol.
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posted on
04/19/2003 5:51:31 PM PDT
by
toothless
(I AM A MAN)
To: MadIvan
I'm no expert on partisan politics (I have no idea how the masses' minds work), but even I can strategize this one for Bush: Just keep repeating, over and over and over, the simple fact that the Democrats cannot be trusted with national security.
Try to enact good domestic policies too, of course, but just keep hammering the Dems on national security.
To: Trace21230
1) abortion Can you tell me what efforts he has taken to advance the cause of ending abortion in the U.S.? I'm aware that he has done some "defunding" of programs abroad, but I'm unaware of anything in particular that he has done domestically.
2) school choice
School choice as in, ability of parents to choose charter schools or homeschools or various public schools? I don't think his increasing of the DOE and the No Child Left Behind Act and subsequent strengthening of federal influence over public schools is a good idea, nor do I think it is conservative.
3) tax cuts
I agree. I wish that we had more effective Republican leadership that was able to pass his tax cuts without trying to emasculate them first.
4) federal judges
I like his picks so far - at least the ones I've read about.
5) prayer in school
I agree.
6) pro-military
Yes, good.
7) SDI
Again, good.
8) anti-Kyoto
VERY GOOD.
9) affirmative action/racial quotas
yes yes.
10) social security reform
Unaware of this.
To: nvcdl
Any Million Mom March soccer mom isn't going to vote for Bush in any case. Make no mistake about it, if Bush vetoes the AWB allowing it to sunset, he will lose in 2004. The campaign to paint him as pro-AK47s in the schoolyards will be too effective.
As I said before, it will be best to make sure the bill never sees his desk. This way Bush doesn't have to betray gun-owners and he can tell all the Soccer Moms out there that he wanted to sign it. Everybody wins (except the anti-gunners).
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posted on
04/19/2003 6:00:38 PM PDT
by
Drew68
(owner of se)
To: Drew68
lose tag line
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posted on
04/19/2003 6:01:13 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: giotto
I've been saying that over and OVER again - the reason Bush #1 lost was not because Clinton was popular. The reason Bush #1 lost was not because of the economy. The reason Bush #1 lost was not because of the left's ideology.
The reason Bush #1 lost was because CONSERVATIVES AND INDEPENDENTS voted for Ross Perot. Most I know who voted for Perot did so because he seem to be a more conservative/libertarian/pragmatic candidate than Bush #1. Had those people known it would cost conservatives a voice for 8 years, they would never have voted the way they did. Most of them HATED Clinton, and none of them I've met supported anything the left represents.
If there is no real alternative to Bush and his values, he will win - unless the press can convince us to vote for someone else again...
If that does happen, you can say hello to Queen Hillary and her cronies, and say goodbye to the Republic.
To: gcruse
One troll comment and one salute. Not bad.
To: MadIvan
I suggest the Republicans run a series of advertisements..with Hitlery kissing Mrs. Arafat, Clinton embrassing Gerry Adams...
And then show a the scenes of liberation in Iraq, with the message...
"it's not just the economy, stupid".
And then 'READ MY HEART....America powerful, progessive, and SAFE'
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posted on
04/19/2003 6:09:54 PM PDT
by
Happygal
To: gcruse
You'd deny Bush your vote because you can't get a machine gun to kill deer and call it sport? Mercy. Indeed. But as one newbie pointed out, you don't really know the law. It's not the machine guns these nuts want to use to massacre deer and call it sport! It's the Abrams tanks! I suppose that in relative terms, to the Stormfront loonies, we're all DU trolls!
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posted on
04/19/2003 6:13:08 PM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
(Subvert the dominant cliche!)
To: Godebert; gcruse
Bush may find that out if he signs the so-called "Assault" Weapons ban. I'm an Irish girl, but as far as I know the 'assault weapons' ban was introduced by Clinton initially. So you would not vote Republican, but support a Democrat because the Democrat introduced it in the first place?????(Now my head is spinning!!)
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posted on
04/19/2003 6:13:11 PM PDT
by
Happygal
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