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Last, Desperate Days of a Brutal Reign (NYT - John F. Burns)
New York Times ^ | April 19, 2003 | John F. burns

Posted on 04/19/2003 3:40:30 PM PDT by HAL9000

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21 posted on 04/20/2003 8:36:48 AM PDT by yianni
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Actually, this is an excellent and very vivid article. Is the New York Times actually taking off its PC (pro-Saddam) blinders and looking at reality?

John Burns' articles have been hostile to Saddam all along. People here on FR don't like it hear it, but the New York Times coverage of Iraq has been only slightly anti-war (not counting editorials, which IMHO should not count). Washington Post coverage has been almost equally balanced between articles we would like and articles we would dislike (sadly, not quite as balanced now that Michael Kelly is gone). Of course, one might object that a US newspaper should have some loyalty to its own country. Plus, isn't there something wrong with being neutral between the US/UK as opposed to Saddam's rapeocracy? But that is to say that a little bias in the right direction would be a good thing.

If you want to look for bias at the Times, check out their gay rights coverage. However, on most other issues, there is no comparison between US newspaper coverage and that in foreign countries, which except for a few obviously right of center papers often refused to publish much of anything hostile to Saddam. People who read papers in a country like Brazil have never heard that Saddam gassed his own people, except perhaps in an article reporting on a plausible sounding denial.

Compared to the universities, America's liberal newspapers are tremendously committed to including viewpoints with which the majority (within that institution's leadership disagrees. (This is a generalization which has exceptions--I was in San Francisco last year and found the Chronicle to be amazingly and consistently anti-Israel.) Knowing that structural reasons make it likely that both the press and the universities will continue to be dominated by liberals, we should be pushing for the same kind of committment to diverse viewpoints found in the New York Times (and even more found in the Washington Post) is also reflected, for example, uptown at Columbia.

There is a tendency here to see a article we dislike, say something by Bob Woodward or Richard Cohen or Paul Krugman, and act like they are the entirety of their papers. They are not. Maybe I'm damning with faint praise, but I have been reading a lot of the foreign and US press on the Internet since 9/11, and am proud to say that ours is the world's best. Conservatives shouldn't be complaining ALL the time or people will stop listening.

22 posted on 04/20/2003 7:41:51 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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Yet another liberal news agency attempts to come clean.

So the NY Times ALSO knew for ten years that Iraqi were illegal imprisoned, tortured, mutilated and executed.

But in order to get the scoop... the liberal NY Times like CNN did nothing to aide humanity!

Disgusting!

What must the liberals know of the Democrats, Ted Kennedy and the PLO?
23 posted on 04/21/2003 9:48:26 PM PDT by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall simply elect one more "W")
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"Last, Desperate Days of a Brutal Reign "

oh...I thought this article had something to do with Mister Bill, the Shrew, and Janet Waco.

24 posted on 04/21/2003 9:54:59 PM PDT by El Cid
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