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To: Fifth Business
or are you just mocking?

HOW big was his harem - HOW many people did he have 'to look over' on a continueing and on-going basis - continued recruitment, 'maintenance' of current members, a never-ending spin on 'the truth' (as told by him) was what he spent his time doing.

I don't think, in those latter years, he had the opportunity to be off site on a regular basis for something as mundane as a 'shopping trip' -

- God's chosen one (at Mt. Carmel) had bigger, more pressing issues that vyed for his time than 'shopping' - that's what his people do to prove their continued love and devotion to Koresh ...

84 posted on 04/19/2003 11:44:45 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: _Jim
I don't think, in those latter years, he had the opportunity to be off site on a regular basis for something as mundane as a 'shopping trip' -

I don't know, but some people seem to think so:

For the record: The whole affair started with a "knock" warrant to search for illegal firearms. To serve this "knock" warrant, an army showed up. This was unusual. David Koresh had previously complied with other search warrants to inspect the church buildings, including investigations from child protective services. He had actually offered to meet with the BATF to iron out any problems they might have and had been target shooting with two BATF agents just a few weeks before the raid. Koresh was known to be in town frequently shopping, so he could have been picked up at any time without a struggle.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/political/19991001-254.html

If you'd like me to look for more on this I can do so.

100 posted on 04/19/2003 11:53:22 AM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: _Jim; sinkspur
"HOW big was his harem...."

Your's is a sick BIG LIE created and promulgated by a government which also referred to Christians as a cult (Janet Reno, speaking for the rapist), the Branch Davidians were a peaceful, Second Amendment conscious group of Christians. David Koresh was in the town of Waco regularly. Had 'peace' officers wanted to arrest him for any of the false allegations raised against the Davidians, it could have happened peacefully in town.

You choose to put aside the fact the ATF's budget was before Congress, and there was serious talk of merging the entire department within the Justice Department. Recall also this was a highly planned media event staged to impress Congress to keep the ATF alive.....standing proudly atop a hill of dead children, women and male American Citizens. The central government unleashes a horrifying take-no-prisoners holocaust designed to intimidate law abiding Americans under the benign banner to "....protect the children....". The message is cannon loud, and it's achievement glowed in the ambers of Mount Carmel.

Medals all 'round. A job well done. Bulldoze the evidence. Well done if murdering and burning children to death is your definition of a warrior.

Evangelist David Koresh was a Christian. His respect for the Word of God greatly exceeded the children killing government atheists who referred to hearing "Bible babble".

Stinky - I'm sticking out my tongue, along with my clinched fist and a Rockefeller salute. I will forever remember - and never forgive - the cold blooded sniper murder of a mother holding her baby, and the killing of her son by shooting him in the back as he ran from the government killers at Ruby Ridge - who got promotions and medals for their capital offense. The same inhuman barbarian mind-set was awarded medals and promotions after American Citizens, men, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN were forced back into the Waco inferno by government killers. The horror and unspeakable terror felt by the children, the mothers and fathers while being burned to death superceded Hitler's murders. He either shot them or gassed them before he burned their bodies.

Hitler also promoted and pinned metals on his killers of women and children as well. The black side of Nazi Germany history reliving itself in America.

Tell that to the men and women who were killed to rid the world of Hitler.

Who would think in 1945 that a future 'American'government would not only condone, but reward 'peace' officers with medals and promotions for killing American Citizens in their homes during 'mistaken' drug raids; murder an unarmed mother holding her child; shot a boy in the back; or force men women and children to suffer an agonizing death by fire by denying them an escape to safety from a burning inferno.

Damn the rapist and his entire gang of lifetime appointments of judicial and law enforcement atheists, as well as anybody in government attempting to strip Americans of our right to defend ourselves from the present diabolically deceptive oligarchical government by force of arms.

199 posted on 04/19/2003 3:37:26 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: _Jim
ACtually, I don't want to get in an argument, but I live fairly close to WAco and at one time, we parked our motorhome there for about 6 months. I saw, read and talked to folks about this on a local level. It seems he did, in fact, go to town and jogged along the country road. It was said he shopped for supplies at, I believe, Home Depot. So, yes, however, you feel about the situation, I won't argue with anyone on it - but it seems there was ample opportunity for them to have at least attempted to handle it in a different way. There are just too many statements by people who have no axe to grind one way or another to not believe that is the case.
203 posted on 04/19/2003 3:47:24 PM PDT by nanny
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