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Branch Davidian children speak out 10 years after Waco standoff
Associated Press ^
| 04-18-03
Posted on 04/18/2003 5:13:10 PM PDT by Brian S
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:50:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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WACO, Texas (AP) - Two-year-old Kimberly Martin fell asleep on a chapel bench during a rambling sermon about the end of the world. The religious group's leader, David Koresh, got angry. He jerked the sleepy toddler and made her sit beside him as he kept on preaching.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: branchdavidian; childabuse; waco; wacoplusten
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and a handful still follow Koresh's teachings and attend a weekly Bible study at a chapel built on the compound's remnants. Interesting. Guess the Feds didn't seize the land/property.
Ten year anniversary. Damnit time is flying and I'm getting old!
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:13:10 PM PDT
by
Brian S
To: Brian S
Their vivid memories support an extensive fraudulent government investigation revealing alleging that the Davidians shot each other and set the blaze to end the standoff. Can you say implanted memories?
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:20:11 PM PDT
by
coloradan
To: Brian S
To parphrase Mark Twain: There are lies, damn lies, and government investigations.
Check it out if you haven't already.
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:25:21 PM PDT
by
mc5cents
To: coloradan
Maybe it's better to wait and read the 'final' history of things fifty years after the fact, when all the revisionist governmental butt covering has been done. This piecemeal downgrading from truth to the victor's version is infuriating to watch.
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:28:24 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(The F word, N word, C word: We're well on our way to spelling 'France.')
To: Brian S
Waco was a lesson for Americans that our government couldn't always be trusted to tell the truth. It showed us what rogue government agencies are capable of doing to its own citizens.
Since 9-11 we seem to have forgotten, amidst the deafening cries for "security".
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:29:50 PM PDT
by
Possenti
To: coloradan
implanted memoriesThis is exactly what came to my mind . . .
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:44:41 PM PDT
by
mamaduck
To: gcruse
Bump!
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posted on
04/18/2003 5:52:30 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
To all....you back the war in Iraq but not the actions taken in Waco? Extremist much?
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posted on
04/18/2003 6:44:05 PM PDT
by
TheGunny
To: TheGunny
To all....you back the war in Iraq but not the actions taken in Waco? Extremist much? Yes, I favored an armed attack on an enemy terrorist state in the Middle East, while I opposed an armed attack on a group of American citizens. If this makes me an "extremist", then I am proud to be one.
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posted on
04/18/2003 6:56:11 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: Brian S
Two-year-old Kimberly Martin fell asleep on a chapel bench during a rambling sermon about the end of the world. The religious group's leader, David Koresh, got angry. He jerked the sleepy toddler and made her sit beside him as he kept on preaching. Nice to know that she "remembers" it to be a "rambling sermon" about the end of the world. She must have been a very bright two year-old to pick up on the subject matter of his sermons. Bah.
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posted on
04/18/2003 6:58:40 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: mamaduck
Face it. Koresh was another wack job who lead his followers down the path to self destruction, just like Jim Jones. The feeble minded are always easily led astray regardless of what purported religion is being espoused.
Though I do believe the government did overstep its' pursuit of him, that in of itself does not absolve Koresh of his many deplorable crimes that he commited against his followers.
To: TheGunny
What you been gunning Bro. ?
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:38:02 PM PDT
by
jokar
(In my experiance, there is no problem so deep, that a good ass kicking can't improve upon.)
To: ambrose
"attack on a group of American citizens"
And British and Canadian, too, that I know of. Plain people.
Remember, the search warrant affadavit said that a BATF agent had seen "everything needed to make an M16 except the lower reciever" and an "AK-47 full-auto lower".
First, for those who don't know, anyone who owns a (legal) AR-15 has everything you need, except the lower. The upper reciever can fit on either rifle. Second, the AK has a one piece reciever, no lower or upper. This from a knowledgable ATF agent.
On this basis, the whole sad affair started.
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:38:06 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: inspector
that in of itself does not absolve Koresh of his many deplorable crimes that he committed against his followers.Please source and provide links on Koresh's deplorable crimes against his followers.
Please don't post the make believe ones Reno cooked up from thin air. All of those have been refuted or not proven.
I'm not defending him because he was a religious kook, but the book of "crimes" he committed would be a pretty thin one.
Compared to the crimes committed in the name of the federal government, I'd rather defend Koresh.
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:46:44 PM PDT
by
JZoback
(Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
To: coloradan
Can you say implanted memories? oh brother. The feds overreached, but Koresh was a monster too. That very name that he adopted is from Islam, the 'religion of peace.'
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:51:07 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
(Si vis pacem, para bellum....)
To: inspector
gmta. Looks like we have a bunch of "what has Iraq/Koresh ever done to warrant our invasion" ppl here...
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:52:29 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
(Si vis pacem, para bellum....)
To: Brian S
Two-year-old Kimberly Martin fell asleep on a chapel bench during a rambling sermon about the end of the world. "I don't remember much, but I remember that he spanked me in front of people," said Martin, now 14.
Fuzzy math
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:54:53 PM PDT
by
Flyer
(We Own The Streets!!)
To: Flyer
I guess her memory could have been of a 1991 event. Don't jump so fast, Flyer.
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:58:13 PM PDT
by
Flyer
(We Own The Streets!!)
To: Brian S
If the Davidians were Iraqis, and the effabeeeye were Marines, the Davidians would be alive today. That is the difference between being surrounded by hero military officers vs. a bull dike and her bootlick wanna be pseudo commandoes
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:06:31 PM PDT
by
Leisler
To: Terriergal
The feds didn't "overeach" - they, with malice aforethought, murdered 82 men, women, and children, and they lied to the world about it.
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